[cma-l] SWINDON 105.5 on the buses!

Tue Feb 23 13:39:07 GMT 2016

Dear Mr H Dumpty
President – Canalside Radio

I agree with your concern, and i believe, that they should have a flat rate
for PRS & PPL, Here we like to mention that A bengali community radio like
us, din't play any music from English singer as well as any english writer
on our station. so why should we pay PPL and PRS.
On your letter you quoted that The best bit is on the form where it reads
(donations / grants etc)     they say   and I quote ‘’we’re not interested
in that’’ well if that’s the case why do we have to report it --- we refuse
point blankly as it is none of their business and it is a pointless
exercise. Lot’s of this is also about strong principals.
You quoted "
I agree with you that why we should sign and report this to them.
I think CMA should act on behalf of all community radio to negotiate this
matter asap.
Thanks to raise this issue on behalf of us.

On 22 February 2016 at 16:28, Canalside's The Thread <
office at thethread.org.uk> wrote:

> I hope you’ve reported the back scratching to PRS & PPL ……….. they’ll want
> the equivalent NBR figures     re:- barter/contra and hey !   a new section
> now   ‘back scratching’’     J
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>
>
> A few posts flying around today about Stations not being able to play
> their own output in their own reception area without facing yet another
> additional charge from the Parasite Society of Great Britain. The World has
> gone mad, and WE have gone soft.
>
>
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> There ought to be no reporting (as there is nothing to report)   just one
> licence that covers the lot, negotiated at a flat rate fee. State the
> amount of songs used in an hour (average) and no NBR    as net of zero =
> zero ……. The section where they want to know the ins and outs of a Nags
> backside   re:- barter / contra / BACK SCRATCH   ought to simply say :
>
>
>
> Section <> MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS !
>
>
>
> We are currently in a ding dong with both of these organisations basically
> because we feel we need to sign no more agreements (we can’t agree on
> something that we totally disagree with !
>
> We received a caution from one of them two weeks ago saying ‘’in our
> agreement we agree to fill in the form and send back a report’’    I made
> it clear 3 years ago that we do not agree to this and that we are a
> not-for-profit organisation whose year end always results in = not a Pot to
> pee in. What don’t they understand about this ?     working out the
> arithmetic of how many pennies a contra deal with the local Milkman equates
> to, is a farce.
>
>
>
> I have asked them for a form which consists of a flat rate fee and how
> many songs and can they roll the licences (FM/Internet) all up into one
> please --- I am still waiting. We have set a S/O up with them both, so they
> are getting their money on that flat rate fee. We have never refused to
> pay, we have always paid.
>
>
>
> I sincerely hope a PROPER AND FIT  flat rate figure has been negotiated
> between the Parasite Societies and the CMA ………..I suppose it could be split
> into a two tier fee … Big Stations and Ickle Stations … trouble is, I’m not
> sure how you work that out when all of us end up at the end of year on =
> zero ???
>
>
>
> The best bit is on the form where it reads (donations / grants etc)
> they say   and I quote ‘’we’re not interested in that’’            well if
> that’s the case why do we have to report it --- we refuse point blankly as
> it is none of their business and it is a pointless exercise. Lot’s of
> this is also about strong principals.
>
>
>
> You may ask why do I keep banging on about this ??   it is because many
> years ago at a meeting in Manchester the topic of PPL/PRS came up in
> relation to Community Radio ……..we were led to believe that there was a
> flat rate fee for Community Radio. This then conveniently got lost in
> dispatches and it turned into a ‘minimum fee’ + a gobbledy gook report and
> extra tickles £££ on an NBR  which as you know is completely different to a
> flat rate fee.
>
>
>
> We have allowed ourselves to be hoodwinked and we have allowed ourselves
> to be walked all over. As I said weeks ago ---- all our agreements are now
> on the Log Burner. If they are dissatisfied with the flat rate fee then
> they need to renegotiate it ……     a nice bit of back scratching might work
> wonders in the meeting.
>
>
>
> Mr H Dumpty   /    President – Canalside Radio
>
>
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> *From:* cma-l-bounces at mailman.commedia.org.uk [mailto:
> cma-l-bounces at mailman.commedia.org.uk] *On Behalf Of *Darren Cullum
> *Sent:* 21 February 2016 09:07
> *To:* Shirley Ludford; The Community Media Association Discussion List
> *Subject:* Re: [cma-l] SWINDON 105.5 on the buses!
>
>
>
> Good work Shirley and great use of back scratching which I am a huge fan
> of. In fact, we have achieved more over three years by doing that than
> charging for advertising!
>
> Kind Regards
>
> Darren Cullum
> Station Manager
> www.tonefm.co.uk
> 07970-521201
>
> Sent from my tablet.
>
> W: www.tonefm.co.uk
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> F: www.facebook.com/tonefm
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> T: www.twitter.com/tauntonstonefm
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>
> *Taunton's 107.8 Tone FM is now on air in Somerset’s County Town!*
>
> *Please Note:* Tone FM is a 'Not for Profit' Community Radio Station which
> is run by volunteers so we may not respond to your email straight away so
> please be patient with us.
>
> On 19 Feb 2016 17:06, "Shirley Ludford" <shirleyludford at btinternet.com>
> wrote:
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> Hi,
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> I thought this would be a slightly unusual story to share with you.
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> SWINDON 105.5 has completed a move to new premises (a major job!) and is
> now sharing a large building with one of Swindon's libraries.
>
> We now have two bus stops (see photo).
>
>
> Also, I voice the bus stop announcements on the town's bus service - at no
> charge and in return for passes I discretely give to volunteers who are
> struggling a little financially.  An announcement for each of the services
> stopping at our bus stops now says "next stop Liden Centre and SWINDON
> 105.5".
>
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> Our posters are very often put in the windows of all buses for a month at
> a time.  New posters and letterheads and banners have been printed by a
> local company as their contribution to move.   Creative partnership working
> and promoting our Station to the community we serve!
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> * Shirls*
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>  Shirley Ludford
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> Mob: 07951 366289
>
> High Sheriff's Award for Services to Community
>
> Pride Of Swindon Award
> Patron: Commonweal School
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> Patron: Pegasus Brass
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> [image: Inline image]
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> Station Manager. Trainer
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> SWINDON 105.5
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> http://www.swindon1055.com/
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