[cma-l] DCMS consultation meetings on amendments to community radiolaw

Office - ccr-fm office at ccr-fm.co.uk
Fri Oct 14 12:53:51 BST 2011 

Clive / Ian n' all

 

I know we've been here before but I do have to pull you up on something.
perhaps we were the only case (that wouldn't surprise me either !?)     but
when we originally applied for our licence there was some kind of brief
discussion, or letter, or e-mail etc    regarding our coverage.

 

As I have pointed out many times before ... we know what our Community is ..
how do we know ?           because we flippin' well live here and most were
born here.

 

Now being very specific OUR Community here consists of Poynton / Wilmslow /
Prestbury / Bollington & the surrounding villages and hamlets with
Macclesfield as the hub. The traditions, the people, the history, the
Councils, the services, the families etc etc are all intermingled and
intertwined.

 

It is quite simple ..... this is the area that we serve, need to serve,
always have wanted to serve ..... however !      regardless of what Ian
thinks, the facts are that somewhere in the constitution and the paper and
the garbage, we are only allowed 5km which barely gets us out of Bollington
! .. which by the way is surrounded by 3 miles of fields, sheep, cow dung
and trees in ALL directions.

 

So, the end result is, when Key 103 come blasting over the top of us 7km
down the road and INSIDE our Community no one gives a flying cactus and we
basically get the one fingered salute.

 

It is this tripe and this nonsense along with all the other crap, that has
led to us feeling isolated, disrespected and treated appallingly.

 

So                  when all else is lost, one has to throw caution to the
wind and you ''takes yer chances''               whatever happens . we are
not at fault, we are not blame and we are proud of what we have achieved and
what we do ... it makes our case even stronger and puts a fire in our belly
when we have achieved it with no help from anyone ...... in fact, on the
contrary, we've had a deliberate hindrance.

 

Nick

 

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From: cma-l-bounces at mailman.commedia.org.uk
[mailto:cma-l-bounces at mailman.commedia.org.uk] On Behalf Of Ian Hickling
Sent: 13 October 2011 23:22
To: clive.glover at lineone.net; Jaqui Devereux
Cc: cma-l
Subject: [cma-l] DCMS consultation meetings on amendments to community
radiolaw

 

  

Clive
At the risk of being guilty of perpetual repetition, can I take you up on
one point:
 
The restrictions on transmitter power to 50 watts and the "5km" radius for
CR stations are unnecessarily restrictive. Stations should be able to make
the case for covering a defined local community area and the transmitter
power to do this should be agreed as a technical/engineering matter with
OFCOM engineers. However, defining the whole of London or Manchester etc as
your community would be taking it too far!

There never has been that hypothetical 50W/5km restriction.
It's a guideline.
 
It has always been the situation that ".......stations should be able to
make the case for covering a defined local community area and the
transmitter power to do this should be agreed as a technical/engineering
matter ......
It's a distinct section of the Application document.
 
In simple terms, Ofcom says "Tell us the Community you wish to cover - and
how you propose doing it.
If you look on Ofcom's published "TX Params", you'll see the stations that
have asked for and got much higher powers and sites.

------------------------------------

Ian Hickling
Partner

transplan UK


  

> From: clive.glover at lineone.net
> Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 18:19:54 +0100
> To: jaqui.devereux at commedia.org.uk
> CC: cma-l at commedia.org.uk
> Subject: Re: [cma-l] DCMS consultation meetings on amendments to community
radio law
> 
> Jaqui
> 
> Obviously the rules limiting or prohibiting advertising on some stations
should be removed. They were intended to limit competition for local
commercial stations and I doubt this Government would want to be seen to be
limiting competition!
> 
> The rules preventing CR stations being licenced in areas where there are
existing commercial stations (but not the other way round) are inequitable
and should be removed.
> 
> The 50% commercial income rule causes us no problems, nor many other
stations and has the advantage of showing a clear distinction between
commercial and community stations. The ability to offset real commercial
income against a notional value for volunteer time means that this should
not create problems for the majority of CR stations, although I accept it
may for a few.
> 
> The restrictions on transmitter power to 50 watts and the "5km" radius for
CR stations are unnecessarily restrictive. Stations should be able to make
the case for covering a defined local community area and the transmitter
power to do this should be agreed as a technical/engineering matter with
OFCOM engineers. However, defining the whole of London or Manchester etc as
your community would be taking it too far!
> 
> Hope this helps!
> 
> regards,
> 
> Clive
> On 13 Oct 2011, at 13:51, Jaqui Devereux wrote:
> 
> > Dear all
> > 
> > The DCMS will be co-hosting a couple of meetings with us, probably in
> > the New Year, to discuss possible amendments to the law on community
> > radio, as part of the new Communications Bill.
> > 
> > We are writing to ask your views on what the agenda should cover - we
> > do have quite a few ideas on what you might want but would prefer you
> > to tell us!
> > 
> > Almost certainly community radio advertising rules (all of them) will
> > be on the agenda, but what other subjects would you like on it?
> > 
> > Please do let us know,
> > 
> > Best wishes
> > 
> > Jaqui
> > 
> > -- 
> > Jaqui Devereux
> > Director, Community Media Association
> > Community Media Association
> > http://www.commedia.org.uk
> > 
> > t: 0114 279 5219
> > 
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