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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Clive / Ian n’ all<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I know we’ve been here before but I
do have to pull you up on something. perhaps we were the only case (that wouldn’t
surprise me either !?) but when we originally applied
for our licence there was some kind of brief discussion, or letter, or e-mail
etc regarding our coverage.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>As I have pointed out many times before …….
we know what our Community is …… how do we know
? because we
flippin’ well live here and most were born here.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Now being very specific OUR Community here
consists of Poynton / Wilmslow / Prestbury / Bollington & the surrounding
villages and hamlets with Macclesfield as the hub. The traditions, the people,
the history, the Councils, the services, the families etc etc are all
intermingled and intertwined.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>It is quite simple ………..
this is the area that we serve, need to serve, always have wanted to serve ……………
however ! regardless of what Ian thinks, the
facts are that somewhere in the constitution and the paper and the garbage, we
are only allowed 5km which barely gets us out of Bollington ! …. which by
the way is surrounded by 3 miles of fields, sheep, cow dung and trees in ALL
directions.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>So, the end result is, when Key 103 come
blasting over the top of us 7km down the road and INSIDE our Community no one
gives a flying cactus and we basically get the one fingered salute.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>It is this tripe and this nonsense along
with all the other crap, that has led to us feeling isolated, disrespected and
treated appallingly.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>So
when all else is lost, one has to throw caution to the wind and you ‘’takes
yer chances’’
whatever happens … we are not at fault, we are not blame and we are proud
of what we have achieved and what we do ……… it makes our case
even stronger and puts a fire in our belly when we have achieved it with no
help from anyone ………….. in fact, on the contrary, we’ve
had a deliberate hindrance.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Nick<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
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cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk
[mailto:cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Ian Hickling<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 13 October 2011 23:22<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> clive.glover@lineone.net;
Jaqui Devereux<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> cma-l<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [cma-l] DCMS consultation
meetings on amendments to community radiolaw</span></font><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>Clive<br>
At the risk of being guilty of perpetual repetition, can I take you up on one
point:<br>
<br>
<em><i><font face=Tahoma><span style='font-family:Tahoma'>The restrictions on
transmitter power to 50 watts and the "5km" radius for CR stations
are unnecessarily restrictive. Stations should be able to make the case for
covering a defined local community area and the transmitter power to do this
should be agreed as a technical/engineering matter with OFCOM engineers.
However, defining the whole of London or Manchester etc as your community would
be taking it too far!</span></font></i></em><i><span style='font-style:italic'><br>
</span></i><br>
There never has been that hypothetical 50W/5km <em><b><i><font face=Tahoma><span
style='font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>restriction</span></font></i></b></em>.<br>
It's a <em><b><i><font face=Tahoma><span style='font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:
bold'>guideline</span></font></i></b></em>.<br>
<br>
It has always been the situation that ".......<em><i><font
face=Tahoma><span style='font-family:Tahoma'>stations should be able to make
the case for covering a defined local community area and the transmitter power
to do this should be agreed as a technical/engineering matter ......</span></font></i></em><br>
It's a distinct section of the Application document.<br>
<br>
In simple terms, Ofcom says "Tell us the Community you wish to cover - and
how you propose doing it.<br>
If you look on Ofcom's published "TX Params", you'll see the stations
that have asked for and got much higher powers and sites.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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font-family:Tahoma'>------------------------------------<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><font size=2 color="#262626"
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:#262626;
font-weight:bold'>Ian Hickling<br>
</span></font></b><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>Partner</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>transplan <st1:country-region
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">UK</st1:place></st1:country-region><o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma'>> From: clive.glover@lineone.net<br>
> Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 18:19:54 +0100<br>
> To: jaqui.devereux@commedia.org.uk<br>
> CC: cma-l@commedia.org.uk<br>
> Subject: Re: [cma-l] DCMS consultation meetings on amendments to community
radio law<br>
> <br>
> Jaqui<br>
> <br>
> Obviously the rules limiting or prohibiting advertising on some stations
should be removed. They were intended to limit competition for local commercial
stations and I doubt this Government would want to be seen to be limiting
competition!<br>
> <br>
> The rules preventing CR stations being licenced in areas where there are
existing commercial stations (but not the other way round) are inequitable and
should be removed.<br>
> <br>
> The 50% commercial income rule causes us no problems, nor many other
stations and has the advantage of showing a clear distinction between
commercial and community stations. The ability to offset real commercial income
against a notional value for volunteer time means that this should not create
problems for the majority of CR stations, although I accept it may for a few.<br>
> <br>
> The restrictions on transmitter power to 50 watts and the "5km"
radius for CR stations are unnecessarily restrictive. Stations should be able
to make the case for covering a defined local community area and the
transmitter power to do this should be agreed as a technical/engineering matter
with OFCOM engineers. However, defining the whole of <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">London</st1:place></st1:City> or Manchester etc as your community
would be taking it too far!<br>
> <br>
> Hope this helps!<br>
> <br>
> regards,<br>
> <br>
> Clive<br>
> On 13 Oct 2011, at 13:51, Jaqui Devereux wrote:<br>
> <br>
> > Dear all<br>
> > <br>
> > The DCMS will be co-hosting a couple of meetings with us, probably in<br>
> > the New Year, to discuss possible amendments to the law on community<br>
> > radio, as part of the new Communications Bill.<br>
> > <br>
> > We are writing to ask your views on what the agenda should cover - we<br>
> > do have quite a few ideas on what you might want but would prefer you<br>
> > to tell us!<br>
> > <br>
> > Almost certainly community radio advertising rules (all of them) will<br>
> > be on the agenda, but what other subjects would you like on it?<br>
> > <br>
> > Please do let us know,<br>
> > <br>
> > Best wishes<br>
> > <br>
> > Jaqui<br>
> > <br>
> > -- <br>
> > Jaqui Devereux<br>
> > Director, Community Media Association<br>
> > Community Media Association<br>
> > http://www.commedia.org.uk<br>
> > <br>
> > t: 0114 279 5219<br>
> > <br>
> > Canstream Internet Radio & Video<br>
> > http://www.canstream.co.uk/<br>
> > <br>
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> > https://www.facebook.com/CommunityMediaAssociation<br>
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