[cma-l] Community Radio Fund mini-survey
Ron Millet
ronm at bridging-thegap.co.uk
Thu May 26 10:56:16 BST 2016
You could always "doorstep" them with an instant interview to be played on local radio.???
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> On 26 May 2016, at 21:27, Martin Steers <martin at martinsteers.co.uk> wrote:
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> Hiya Nick,
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> This is a genuine question to you and the rest of the list, but what does successful plan B look like?
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>> On 26 May 2016 at 07:51, Canalside's The Thread <office at thethread.org.uk> wrote:
>> Ask Mr Whittingdale and Mr Vaizey to raid a larder or two and come up with the same amount for us (just like they did for Community White Elephant TV / BBC Journalists / Newspapers etc etc and then pop it in our Pot ………….divvy the Pot out equally, and 50% of our problems disappear overnight.
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>> 8 Million on top of what we already have and it’s game over.
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>> If not, then we DEMAND to know why not, so please ask the question.
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>> Me personally, I would like the answer (whether negative or affirmative) to be at least valid. I would be grateful if we don’t receive an answer that :-
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>> 1) Insults our intelligence
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>> 2) Tells us how wonderful we are, but gives us nothing concrete
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>> 3) Tells us 20 things that we already know
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>> In the event of a negative we need a Plan B. Plan B has to consist of either a way forward, sideways or backwards as the Status Quo is as dead as a Dodo.
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>> You then get a mandate from members …….. preferably from those who are prepared to stand up and be counted and/or those who are prepared to be walked all over, keel over and die or spend the rest of their days as a carpet.
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>> We are not the third tier of broadcasting, we are the third fiddle in the Orchestra at the moment.
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>> Nick
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>> From: cma-l-bounces at mailman.commedia.org.uk [mailto:cma-l-bounces at mailman.commedia.org.uk] On Behalf Of Martin Steers
>> Sent: 25 May 2016 16:22
>> To: The Community Media Association Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: [cma-l] Community Radio Fund mini-survey
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>> Alan,
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>> You do raise very good points, and I think you might be right.. but if anything all we do is ask then at least we have done something.
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>> Martin
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>> On 25 May 2016 at 16:12, Alan Coote <alan.coote at 5digital.co.uk> wrote:
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>> Martin,
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>> I think the argument to support local papers is that the BBC will gain qualified journalists as stringers where they don’t already have them or to save money by reallocating staff. I’m not sure what numbers were crunched to get to £8M but someone thought about it - for a few minutes at least.
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>> Most community stations don’t employ journalists, so it would be difficult to justify diverting licence fee money into arguably less suitable organisations, especially when they could undermine BBC local radios value in serving the community.
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>> Personally – I don’t think there is much opportunity to engage with the BBC on this issue.
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>> Alan
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>> Let’s Talk Business
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>> So thats BBC's money to sort of spend as they wish. Its also to fund the BBC employment of staff into "qualifying local news organisations" so just cash for newspapers.
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>> There may be scope to engage with the BBC to unpick whats involved and to see if community stations can be classified into these "qualifying local news organisations" for journalists into stations (to not mention access to local video etc).
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>> Martin
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>> On 25 May 2016 at 12:53, Two Lochs Radio <tlr at gairloch.co.uk> wrote:
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>> As per previous postings, Ron, the money would come from the licence fee. The BBC reckons it is a good value for money (£8m/year) in news gathering, giving it and other local media better and cost-effective coverage of local news, particular things such as local authority and public utility news stories.
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>> For more details of how the BBC sees it: http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/latestnews/2016/bbc-nma-partnership
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>> Alex
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>>> On 25 May 2016 at 12:18 Ron Millet <ronm at bridging-thegap.co.uk> wrote:
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>>> The real set of questions to ask is.
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>>> 1) where is the money for newspaper journalists coming from?
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>>> 2) if it has come from Ofcom or DCMS resources from what sector has it been taken?
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>>> 3) what legislation and relevant section gives authority for granting these monies?
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>>> Sent from my iPad
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>>> On 25 May 2016, at 19:59, Tony Bailey <ravensound at pilgrimsound.co.uk> wrote:
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>>>> One possibility Nick (dredging the memory banks here) wasn't there a proposal to introduce community Beeb websites which was seen by some to undermine local press?
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>>>> Tony Bailey
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>>>> On 23/05/16 12:32, Canalside's The Thread wrote:
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>>>>> QUOTE:
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>>>>> ………I ask the question again and I have asked via my local MP / Mr Vaizey this money that has suddenly appeared from nowhere to fund Newspaper Journalists (which has absolutely nothing to do with Radio !)(unless I have missed something?)
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>>>>> From: cma-l-bounces at mailman.commedia.org.uk [mailto:cma-l-bounces at mailman.commedia.org.uk] On Behalf Of Bill Best
>>>>> Sent: 20 May 2016 17:45
>>>>> To: cma-l at commedia.org.uk
>>>>> Subject: [cma-l] Community Radio Fund mini-survey
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>>>>>
>>>>> Hi
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>>>>> Just in case people didn't see this email buried in the long thread entitled 'Community Radio Fund & the CMA' I'm reposting this in a new thread to give it higher profile.
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>>>>> The CMA informed DCMS in its 2014 Community Radio Consultation that we had held a consultation meeting in Sheffield in April 2014 at which members attending the meeting "unanimously put forward the view that the Community Radio Fund should be distributed equally to all eligible stations rather than on a contested basis as is now". However it was apparent at the time that not all members supported that view.
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>>>>> The original question put forward by DCMS in its 2014 Consultation was as follows:
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>>>>> Question 7 – How can Community Radio Fund grant funding be better used.
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>>>>> There are no plans to alter how decisions are taken to distribute the grant however we welcome views on other ways in which the grant could be better targeted and how might this be done.
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>>>>> Interestingly there is no acknowledgement of Question 7 in the Government Response to the Consultation on Community Radio here: http://bit.ly/1XmMLaA
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>>>>> The advice I have received on this so far is that a change to how the Community Radio Fund is distributed would not be impossible. However to distribute the Fund equally between all licensed stations would require a substantial change on which DCMS "would probably need to consult".
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>>>>> The agreement between DCMS and Ofcom is written by DCMS - the Fund belongs to DCMS and is merely administered by Ofcom. The Funding Agreement for the next four years now requires updating. For the current year (2016/17), substantial change is not envisaged - the first round of the Fund is already open for applications and closes next week on Thursday 26th May.
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>>>>> Going forward, DCMS will look more broadly at the CRF to reflect the secured funding of £400,000 for community radio for 2016/17, 2017/18, 2018/19 and 2019/20. Other options for distributing the Fund will be considered.
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>>>>> This week, the CMA has again indicated to DCMS that a proposal to distribute the CRF equally amongst licensed stations remains popular and the CMA will collate the views expressed on this mailing list and submit them to DCMS and to Ofcom. There is also an online form here for members to submit their feedback:
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>>>>> http://bit.ly/2016CRF
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>>>>> We will keep this 'mini-survey' open until 30th June.
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>>>>> Best regards for now
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>>>>> Bill Best
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