[cma-l] Community Radio Fund mini-survey

Thu May 26 11:00:04 BST 2016

hay not going to knock that is an idea at least..

Can I also use this as an opportunity to plug the survey if you have not
filled it in already.

http://bit.ly/2016CRF

On 26 May 2016 at 10:56, Ron Millet <ronm at bridging-thegap.co.uk> wrote:

> You could always "doorstep" them with an instant interview to be played on
> local radio.???
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On 26 May 2016, at 21:27, Martin Steers <martin at martinsteers.co.uk> wrote:
>
> Hiya Nick,
>
> This is a genuine question to you and the rest of the list, but what does
> successful plan B look like?
>
> On 26 May 2016 at 07:51, Canalside's The Thread <office at thethread.org.uk>
> wrote:
>
>> Ask Mr Whittingdale and Mr Vaizey to raid a larder or two and come up
>> with the same amount for us    (just like they did for Community White
>> Elephant TV / BBC Journalists / Newspapers etc etc and then pop it in our
>> Pot ………….divvy the Pot out equally, and 50% of our problems disappear
>> overnight.
>>
>> 8 Million on top of what we already have and it’s game over.
>>
>>
>>
>> If not, then we DEMAND to know why not, so please ask the question.
>>
>>
>>
>> Me personally, I would like the answer (whether negative or affirmative)
>> to be at least valid. I would be grateful if we don’t receive an answer
>> that :-
>>
>>
>>
>> 1)       Insults our intelligence
>>
>> 2)       Tells us how wonderful we are, but gives us nothing concrete
>>
>> 3)       Tells us 20 things that we already know
>>
>>
>>
>> In the event of a negative we need a Plan B. Plan B has to consist of
>> either a way forward, sideways or backwards as the Status Quo is as dead as
>> a Dodo.
>>
>>
>>
>> You then get a mandate from members …….. preferably from those who are
>> prepared to stand up and be counted and/or those who are prepared to be
>> walked all over, keel over and die or spend the rest of their days as a
>> carpet.
>>
>>
>>
>> We are not the third tier of broadcasting, we are the third fiddle in the
>> Orchestra at the moment.
>>
>>
>>
>> Nick
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> *From:* cma-l-bounces at mailman.commedia.org.uk [mailto:
>> cma-l-bounces at mailman.commedia.org.uk] *On Behalf Of *Martin Steers
>> *Sent:* 25 May 2016 16:22
>> *To:* The Community Media Association Discussion List
>> *Subject:* Re: [cma-l] Community Radio Fund mini-survey
>>
>>
>>
>> Alan,
>>
>>
>>
>> You do raise very good points, and I think you might be right.. but if
>> anything all we do is ask then at least we have done something.
>>
>>
>>
>> Martin
>>
>>
>>
>> On 25 May 2016 at 16:12, Alan Coote <alan.coote at 5digital.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>> Martin,
>>
>>
>>
>> I think the argument to support local papers is that the BBC will gain
>> qualified journalists as stringers where they don’t already have them or to
>> save money by reallocating staff. I’m not sure what numbers were crunched
>> to get to £8M but someone thought about it  -  for a few minutes at least.
>>
>>
>>
>> Most community stations don’t employ journalists, so it would be
>> difficult to justify diverting licence fee money into arguably less
>> suitable organisations, especially when they could undermine BBC local
>> radios value in serving the community.
>>
>>
>>
>> Personally – I don’t think there is much opportunity to engage with the
>> BBC on this issue.
>>
>>
>>
>> Alan
>>
>> Let’s Talk Business
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> So thats BBC's money to sort of spend as they wish. Its also to fund the
>> BBC employment of staff into "qualifying local news organisations" so just
>> cash for newspapers.
>>
>>
>>
>> There may be scope to engage with the BBC to unpick whats involved and to
>> see if community stations can be classified into these "qualifying local
>> news organisations" for journalists into stations (to not mention access to
>> local video etc).
>>
>>
>>
>> Martin
>>
>>
>>
>> On 25 May 2016 at 12:53, Two Lochs Radio <tlr at gairloch.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>> As per previous postings, Ron, the money would come from the licence fee.
>> The BBC reckons it is a good value for money (£8m/year) in news gathering,
>> giving it and other local media better and cost-effective coverage of local
>> news, particular things such as local authority and public utility news
>> stories.
>>
>> For more details of how the BBC sees it:
>> http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/latestnews/2016/bbc-nma-partnership
>>
>> Alex
>>
>> On 25 May 2016 at 12:18 Ron Millet <ronm at bridging-thegap.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>> The real set of questions to ask is.
>>
>>
>>
>> 1) where is the money for newspaper journalists coming from?
>>
>>
>>
>> 2) if it has come from Ofcom or DCMS resources from what sector has it
>> been taken?
>>
>>
>>
>> 3) what legislation and relevant section gives authority for granting
>> these monies?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>>
>> On 25 May 2016, at 19:59, Tony Bailey <ravensound at pilgrimsound.co.uk>
>> wrote:
>>
>> One possibility Nick (dredging the memory banks here) wasn't there a
>> proposal to introduce community Beeb websites which was seen by some to
>> undermine local press?
>>
>> Tony Bailey
>>
>> On 23/05/16 12:32, Canalside's The Thread wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> QUOTE:
>>
>> ………I ask the question again and I have asked via my local MP / Mr
>> Vaizey      this money that has suddenly appeared from nowhere to fund
>> Newspaper Journalists (which has absolutely nothing to do with Radio
>> !)(unless I have missed something?)
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> *From:* cma-l-bounces at mailman.commedia.org.uk [
>> mailto:cma-l-bounces at mailman.commedia.org.uk
>> <cma-l-bounces at mailman.commedia.org.uk>] *On Behalf Of *Bill Best
>> *Sent:* 20 May 2016 17:45
>> *To:* cma-l at commedia.org.uk
>> *Subject:* [cma-l] Community Radio Fund mini-survey
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi
>>
>>
>>
>> Just in case people didn't see this email buried in the long thread
>> entitled 'Community Radio Fund & the CMA' I'm reposting this in a new
>> thread to give it higher profile.
>>
>>
>>
>> The CMA informed DCMS in its 2014 Community Radio Consultation that we
>> had held a consultation meeting in Sheffield in April 2014 at which
>> members attending the meeting "unanimously put forward the view that the
>> Community Radio Fund should be distributed equally to all eligible stations
>> rather than on a contested basis as is now". However it was apparent at the
>> time that not all members supported that view.
>>
>>
>>
>> The original question put forward by DCMS in its 2014 Consultation was as
>> follows:
>>
>>
>>
>> Question 7 – How can Community Radio Fund grant funding be better used.
>>
>> *There are no plans to alter how decisions are taken to distribute the
>> grant however we welcome views on other ways in which the grant could be
>> better targeted and how might this be done. *
>>
>>
>>
>> Interestingly there is no acknowledgement of Question 7 in the Government
>> Response to the Consultation on Community Radio here:
>> http://bit.ly/1XmMLaA
>>
>>
>>
>> The advice I have received on this so far is that a change to how the
>> Community Radio Fund is distributed would not be impossible. However to
>> distribute the Fund equally between all licensed stations would require a
>> substantial change on which DCMS "would probably need to consult".
>>
>>
>>
>> The agreement between DCMS and Ofcom is written by DCMS - the Fund
>> belongs to DCMS and is merely administered by Ofcom. The Funding Agreement
>> for the next four years now requires updating. For the current year
>> (2016/17), substantial change is not envisaged - the first round of the
>> Fund
>> <http://stakeholders.ofcom.org.uk/broadcasting/radio/community-radio-fund/> is
>> already open for applications and *closes next week on Thursday 26th May*
>> .
>>
>>
>>
>> Going forward, DCMS will look more broadly at the CRF to reflect the
>> secured funding of £400,000 for community radio for 2016/17, 2017/18,
>> 2018/19 and 2019/20. Other options for distributing the Fund will be
>> considered.
>>
>>
>>
>> This week, the CMA has again indicated to DCMS that a proposal to
>> distribute the CRF equally amongst licensed stations remains popular and
>> the CMA will collate the views expressed on this mailing list and submit
>> them to DCMS and to Ofcom. There is also an online form here for members to
>> submit their feedback:
>>
>>
>>
>> http://bit.ly/2016CRF
>>
>>
>>
>> We will keep this 'mini-survey' open until *30th June*.
>>
>>
>>
>> Best regards for now
>>
>>
>>
>> Bill Best
>>
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