[cma-l] Community Radio Awards

Fri Jun 17 21:49:06 BST 2016

Dear all,
Apologies. I fear my time on the Karmic Wheel for this circuit is simply
too short; and recall that the late John Michell told me that his final
book was going to be based on the problematic,
*Why Do UFOs Attract Cranks?*
Yours
Ed

On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 12:46 PM, Canalside's The Thread <
office at thethread.org.uk> wrote:

> Would it not be easier to put the whole thing on the bonfire and all start
> together as one under the Umbrella of    The Community Radio Awards by the
> Community Radio Sector ……. Would this not be a good approach ?
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> In fact I have just had another idea ……….. could we not call them the
> ‘’Singing from the same Hymn sheet awards’’ ??         LOL
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> Mike Mercury Supercar FM
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> *From:* cma-l-bounces at mailman.commedia.org.uk [mailto:
> cma-l-bounces at mailman.commedia.org.uk] *On Behalf Of *Bill Best
> *Sent:* 17 June 2016 12:20
> *To:* The Community Media Association Discussion List
> *Subject:* Re: [cma-l] Community Radio Awards
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>
> Good afternoon
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> The .co.uk awards are not the CMA Chair's awards - Martin Steers is not
> the CMA Chair. I understand that the .co.uk awards were established to be
> deliberately separate to the CMA for reasons of openness and
> transparency. The .co.uk awards have been established as an independent
> not-for-profit company limited by guarantee (No.10098735).
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> Both awards have been open to all the sector and so could be said to
> represent the whole sector - no station that has wanted, or could afford,
> to apply to both awards has been completely free to do so.
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> Both awards are external to the CMA so it would not be appropriate to
> discuss the organisation of two external awards events at the Community
> Media Conference.
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> Best regards
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> Bill
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> On 17 June 2016 at 09:28, Phil Gibbons <philjgibbons at gmail.com> wrote:
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> *Trevor Dann made a good podcast about the two competing Community awards
> for Radio Today - check it out!*
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> I can't shed light on this situation Ed unfortunately.
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> It has been a long journey to get Community Radio reccognised within the
> industry as a broadcaster to be taken seriously. We achieved that at the
> last Radio Academy 'Regions and Nations awards' where 50% of the winning
> stations were Community stations! Having been a judge on the Sony awards, I
> can say that we are very much up there with other broadcasting sectors and
> that is great and something to be proud of. Indeed, many awards have come
> our way courtesy of the Sony Awards and others.
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> Let's never forget what makes Community Radio different though and
> celebrate that, and to reccognise the great contribution that thousands of
> volunteers make across the UK. I have always been wary of suggesting that
> one volunteer has made better radio or is above any other volunteer as this
> of course could have a detrimental effect on what we are all trying to
> achieve.
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>
> Trevor Dann's great podcast about the two competing Community Radio awards
> for Radio Today can be found here: http://radiotoday.co.uk/podcast/ The
> bit about the two awards is from the 18 May show and starts at 14.30. He
> also visits Global which was compulsive listening.
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> He comes away as confused as many of us are, and quite rightly so, and
> almost mocks the fact that we can't get our act together for the greater
> good of the sector.
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> A better consolidated approach should have been made here as this has only
> confused many of us and the wider Radio industry. Why was one set awards
> announced and then the CMA ones (sorry not the CMA, just the CMA chairman's
> with a big nod from the CMA) awards announced the day after??
>
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> I think there needs to be a bigger discussion now about how we can really
> celebrate Community Radio and how any future awards' initiative can be a
> consolidated all singing and dancing affair, that represent the whole
> sector.
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> Therefore, I ask the CMA to find out how this happened this year, and to
> suggest how they, as the representative body, are going to consult with its
> members on how this can be done in future - maybe an agenda item for the
> conference in September.
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> Phil
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> On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 8:21 PM, Martin Steers <martin at martinsteers.co.uk>
> wrote:
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> Hi Ed,
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>
> What do you mean shed light?
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> What in particular do you want to know?
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> On 16 June 2016 at 20:19, Resonance104.4fm <info at resonancefm.com> wrote:
>
> Dear all,
> Fine, but...
> I simply repeat my question, which none of the correspondents to date
> address: Who can shed light on this situation?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Ed
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>
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> On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 6:38 PM, Martin Steers <martin at martinsteers.co.uk>
> wrote:
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> Replying a bit late on all this.
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> The communityradioawards.co.uk are the ones that I am running, and the
> deadline closed at the weekend.
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> Its (was?) £5 to enter / submit a nomination, we are about to start
> processing the submissions and confirming judges at the moment (so if
> anyone on the list offered to get involved watch for an email very soon).
> We are running a judge led process for a shortlist and then the Gold,
> Silver Bronze will be announced at the awards ceremony which is the same
> night as the CMA conference (watch this space for details!),
>
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> Its worth stating again, that these are not the CMA awards, any whilst
> they are 'endorsed' by the CMA, I/We wanted them to be independent and also
> open to all CR licensed stations.
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>
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> Why awards? well through long conversations, stations felt they wanted
> them.. I believe the sector needs to shout louder about what great work it
> does in its communities, and some stations said that being nomination alone
> would be something to help raise their profile in their local community, to
> note on a grant application or as part of conversations with advertisers /
> councils etc.. I see lots of many and different benefits of the awards, and
> aside for "blowing smoke" its truly showcasing, celebrating and
> highlighting those involved in community radio and the fantastic work they
> are doing.
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> The awards are very different in various aspects, and it wouldnt be right
> or fair for me to attempt to compare them, we have been in communication
> (and in fact we started that communication) with the other awards, and are
> keen to have a dialog with them, we are currently awaiting a reply from our
> last email sent to that effect.
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> We wish everyone the best of luck to those who have entered the awards,
> and hope to see lots of you at the ceremony to celebrate community radio.
>
>
>
> Martin
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> On 15 June 2016 at 13:32, Artisan Broadcast (Sales) <
> sales at artisanbroadcast.uk> wrote:
>
> I heard an interview with the founder of the competing awards to those run
> by Martin from CMA. He has tried to communicate and find a middle ground
> but was turned away. I almost started another but decided not to before I
> found out that there already two. ;-)
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> On 15 June 2016 at 10:45, Resonance104.4fm <info at resonancefm.com> wrote:
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> All of a sudden, there seem to be two lots of community radio awards.
>
> Who can shed light on this situation?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Ed
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