[cma-l] Community Radio Awards

Fri Jun 17 12:20:19 BST 2016

Good afternoon

The .co.uk awards are not the CMA Chair's awards - Martin Steers is not the
CMA Chair. I understand that the .co.uk awards were established to be
deliberately separate to the CMA for reasons of openness and transparency. The
.co.uk awards have been established as an independent not-for-profit
company limited by guarantee (No.10098735).

Both awards have been open to all the sector and so could be said to
represent the whole sector - no station that has wanted, or could afford,
to apply to both awards has been completely free to do so.

Both awards are external to the CMA so it would not be appropriate to
discuss the organisation of two external awards events at the Community
Media Conference.

Best regards

Bill
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On 17 June 2016 at 09:28, Phil Gibbons <philjgibbons at gmail.com> wrote:

> *Trevor Dann made a good podcast about the two competing Community awards
> for Radio Today - check it out!*
>
> I can't shed light on this situation Ed unfortunately.
>
> It has been a long journey to get Community Radio reccognised within the
> industry as a broadcaster to be taken seriously. We achieved that at the
> last Radio Academy 'Regions and Nations awards' where 50% of the winning
> stations were Community stations! Having been a judge on the Sony awards, I
> can say that we are very much up there with other broadcasting sectors and
> that is great and something to be proud of. Indeed, many awards have come
> our way courtesy of the Sony Awards and others.
>
> Let's never forget what makes Community Radio different though and
> celebrate that, and to reccognise the great contribution that thousands of
> volunteers make across the UK. I have always been wary of suggesting that
> one volunteer has made better radio or is above any other volunteer as this
> of course could have a detrimental effect on what we are all trying to
> achieve.
>
> Trevor Dann's great podcast about the two competing Community Radio awards
> for Radio Today can be found here: http://radiotoday.co.uk/podcast/ The
> bit about the two awards is from the 18 May show and starts at 14.30. He
> also visits Global which was compulsive listening.
>
> He comes away as confused as many of us are, and quite rightly so, and
> almost mocks the fact that we can't get our act together for the greater
> good of the sector.
>
> A better consolidated approach should have been made here as this has only
> confused many of us and the wider Radio industry. Why was one set awards
> announced and then the CMA ones (sorry not the CMA, just the CMA chairman's
> with a big nod from the CMA) awards announced the day after??
>
> I think there needs to be a bigger discussion now about how we can really
> celebrate Community Radio and how any future awards' initiative can be a
> consolidated all singing and dancing affair, that represent the whole
> sector.
>
> Therefore, I ask the CMA to find out how this happened this year, and to
> suggest how they, as the representative body, are going to consult with its
> members on how this can be done in future - maybe an agenda item for the
> conference in September.
>
> Phil
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 8:21 PM, Martin Steers <martin at martinsteers.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Ed,
>>
>> What do you mean shed light?
>>
>> What in particular do you want to know?
>>
>> On 16 June 2016 at 20:19, Resonance104.4fm <info at resonancefm.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear all,
>>> Fine, but...
>>> I simply repeat my question, which none of the correspondents to date
>>> address: Who can shed light on this situation?
>>> Thanks.
>>> Ed
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 6:38 PM, Martin Steers <
>>> martin at martinsteers.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Replying a bit late on all this.
>>>>
>>>> The communityradioawards.co.uk are the ones that I am running, and the
>>>> deadline closed at the weekend.
>>>>
>>>> Its (was?) £5 to enter / submit a nomination, we are about to start
>>>> processing the submissions and confirming judges at the moment (so if
>>>> anyone on the list offered to get involved watch for an email very soon).
>>>> We are running a judge led process for a shortlist and then the Gold,
>>>> Silver Bronze will be announced at the awards ceremony which is the same
>>>> night as the CMA conference (watch this space for details!),
>>>>
>>>> Its worth stating again, that these are not the CMA awards, any whilst
>>>> they are 'endorsed' by the CMA, I/We wanted them to be independent and also
>>>> open to all CR licensed stations.
>>>>
>>>> Why awards? well through long conversations, stations felt they wanted
>>>> them.. I believe the sector needs to shout louder about what great work it
>>>> does in its communities, and some stations said that being nomination alone
>>>> would be something to help raise their profile in their local community, to
>>>> note on a grant application or as part of conversations with advertisers /
>>>> councils etc.. I see lots of many and different benefits of the awards, and
>>>> aside for "blowing smoke" its truly showcasing, celebrating and
>>>> highlighting those involved in community radio and the fantastic work they
>>>> are doing.
>>>>
>>>> The awards are very different in various aspects, and it wouldnt be
>>>> right or fair for me to attempt to compare them, we have been in
>>>> communication (and in fact we started that communication) with the other
>>>> awards, and are keen to have a dialog with them, we are currently awaiting
>>>> a reply from our last email sent to that effect.
>>>>
>>>> We wish everyone the best of luck to those who have entered the awards,
>>>> and hope to see lots of you at the ceremony to celebrate community radio.
>>>>
>>>> Martin
>>>>
>>>> On 15 June 2016 at 13:32, Artisan Broadcast (Sales) <
>>>> sales at artisanbroadcast.uk> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I heard an interview with the founder of the competing awards to those
>>>>> run by Martin from CMA. He has tried to communicate and find a middle
>>>>> ground but was turned away. I almost started another but decided not to
>>>>> before I found out that there already two. ;-)
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> *Cat Lake*
>>>>> Consultant
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 15 June 2016 at 10:45, Resonance104.4fm <info at resonancefm.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> All of a sudden, there seem to be two lots of community radio awards.
>>>>>> Who can shed light on this situation?
>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>> Ed
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Resonance104.4fm
>>>>>> 144 Borough High Street
>>>>>> London SE1 1LB
>>>>>> UK
>>>>>> www.resonancefm.com
>>>>>>
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