[cma-l] Licences

Tue Jul 5 10:33:02 BST 2016

Nick has got it dead right at grass roots level - as usual:

We are doing all of this the wrong way round ... we've got the tail waggingthe Dog. They're dictating the odds because we have no policy, no mandate,no decision.By the way, if PRS/PPL are coming to Conference, I wouldn't bother listeningto any speeches, just go straight into ''any questions'' and then standaside as you may get trampled underfoot in the stampede.I'm definitely coming to watch this happen.
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> To: cma-l at mailman.commedia.org.uk
> Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2016 18:32:58 +0100
> Subject: Re: [cma-l] Licences
> 
> Yes I did but as a top figure. When you use language like 'tops' it means a
> starting point whereby you have drawn a line in the sand.
> You then quite rightly so have the other discussions and argument thrown
> into the mix. You have mentioned a couple, I think Eddie mentioned one etc
> etc
> Remember I was including everything --Internet feed and DAB should we ever
> get it.
> The point I was trying to make and have been trying to make for years and
> years now but clearly struggling is :- we are all doing the same thing with
> the end result being providing a Community service with a Bank balance at
> the end of the year of ZERO.
> 
> I don't think I'm a Communist or a Socialist nor a Capitalist ......... to
> be honest, I don't know what I am anymore so don't read into my suggestions
> as political, I just think in our case we should all receive the same from
> the fund, we should all pay the same in licences.
> 
> You have to FIX a fee, we need a FIXED FEE    if you have a FIXED FEE then
> all the other nonsense naturally goes away.
> The same applies to the fund .... if you just dole out the same to everyone
> you only need one lady sat there with a cheque book for one week in January
> writing out the cheques. No more bureaucracy, no more bidding against each
> other, and like your suggestion, more in the Pot because you are not paying
> Panels to sit 4 times a year. That could go into the fund. It might only be
> another £300 quid but it pays the Parasite Fees for a quarter.
> 
> We are doing all of this the wrong way round ... we've got the tail wagging
> the Dog. They're dictating the odds because we have no policy, no mandate,
> no decision etc etc
> By the way, if PRS/PPL are coming to Conference, I wouldn't bother listening
> to any speeches, just go straight into ''any questions'' and then stand
> aside as you may get trampled underfoot in the stampede   LOL
> 
> Nick
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cma-l-bounces at mailman.commedia.org.uk
> [mailto:cma-l-bounces at mailman.commedia.org.uk] On Behalf Of Alex Gray, Two
> Lochs Radio
> Sent: 04 July 2016 16:47
> To: 'The Community Media Association Discussion List'
> Subject: Re: [cma-l] Licences
> 
> Did you really suggest £2k for a blanket licence Nick? I think that would be
> way over the top - not only is it a lot more than many of us pay, but I
> would argue that the new joint licence should actually be considerably less
> than the total average payment at the moment. This is because they are
> saving admin costs by switching to one licence, and should be passing on a
> good slice of this saving.
> 
> Having a flat rate blanket licence should also greatly further reduce their
> admin costs, so if the idea of a blanket flat rate licence were proposed, I
> would have said it should be more in the region of £1,000 index-linked for
> micro stations (say up to a turnover of £100k index-linked).
> 
> There are other anomalies in the system that I would like to see addressed,
> but some are tricky. One for example is that if our programmes are broadcast
> 20 miles to our north by a separate Ofcom licence holder, then a second set
> of licences is required by PPL/PRS. But if our programmes are also broadcast
> to a village 20 miles to our east and a third one 20 miles to our south by
> means of off-air relays under our own Ofcom licence, no additional charges
> are payable. Go figure.
> 
> Alex
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cma-l-bounces at mailman.commedia.org.uk
> [mailto:cma-l-bounces at mailman.commedia.org.uk] On Behalf Of Canalside's The
> Thread
> Sent: 04 July 2016 15:02
> To: 'The Community Media Association Discussion List'
> <cma-l at mailman.commedia.org.uk>
> Subject: [cma-l] Licences
> 
> Dear All
> 
> I sent my responses over a week ago, however for the record the 'official'
> response has now gone to the CMA + Lucy at PPL, Laura at PRS, Canalside
> Staff and Volunteers, Wayne Rooney, Engelburt Humperdinck, Jean Claude
> Junker, Barry Manilow, Alan Titchmarsh & Mickey Mouse and of course our
> Governing body The Muppets.
> 
> Hopefully this can be thrashed out quickly and then we can all get on with
> what we are meant to be doing which most definitely isn't    1) being ripped
> off     2) bureaucratic pointless nonsense
> 
> Nick / Chairman of the UK Banging ones head against a brick wall Society
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