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<body class='hmmessage'><div dir='ltr'><font color="#000000">Nick has got it dead right at grass roots level - as usual:<br><br></font><pre style="line-height: 21.3px; white-space: normal; font-family: 'Segoe UI', 'Segoe UI Web Regular', 'Segoe UI Symbol', 'Helvetica Neue', 'BBAlpha Sans', 'S60 Sans', Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><i>We are doing all of this the wrong way round ... we've got the tail wagging<br style="line-height: 21.3px;">the Dog. They're dictating the odds because we have no policy, no mandate,<br style="line-height: 21.3px;">no decision.<br style="line-height: 21.3px;">By the way, if PRS/PPL are coming to Conference, I wouldn't bother listening<br style="line-height: 21.3px;">to any speeches, just go straight into ''any questions'' and then stand<br style="line-height: 21.3px;">aside as you may get trampled underfoot in the stampede.</i></pre>I'm definitely coming to watch this happen.<div><br><div style="line-height:21.3px;color:rgb(68, 68, 68);background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);"><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="line-height:22.72px;background-image:initial;background-attachment:initial;background-size:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;background-position:initial;background-repeat:initial;"><font face="Calibri" size="3"><span style="line-height:22.72px;"><span style="line-height:22.72px;color:rgb(34, 34, 34);">Ian Hickling</span></span><span style="color:rgb(34, 34, 34);line-height:17.9867px;line-height:17.9867px;"></span></font></p></div><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="line-height:22.72px;color:rgb(68, 68, 68);background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);"><span style="line-height:22.72px;color:rgb(34, 34, 34);background-image:initial;background-attachment:initial;background-size:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;background-position:initial;background-repeat:initial;"><font face="Calibri" size="3">Partner</font></span><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri, sans-serif;line-height:22.72px;"><br style="line-height:22.72px;"><br style="line-height:22.72px;"><a href="http://www.transplanuk.com/" target="_blank" style="line-height:22.72px;font-weight:inherit;color:blue;cursor:pointer;"><span style="line-height:22.72px;color:rgb(17, 85, 204);text-decoration:none;"><img border="0" id="ecx_x0000_i1025" src="https://ci4.googleusercontent.com/proxy/2SkDsnIzSZgRbNnNKBSiwxiFhFQWRGV55mTjVL23fulnJpstZmYxeKrrYefY4qxiSgkMrAETld64XINLXCsujE_zI5gAsQyWeCWvHixcrNYtar3Sij4YlVBgN2NSQ-n2DsgZvrnpWZlfwCQ=s0-d-e1-ft#http://www.transplanuk.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/transplan_UK_weblogo_190x60.png" style="line-height:22.72px;border:none;"></span></a></span></p><div style="line-height:21.3px;color:rgb(68, 68, 68);background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);"><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="line-height:22.72px;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;"><font size="2"><i style="line-height:22.72px;"><span style="line-height:22.72px;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;color:rgb(34, 34, 34);">Office: 016 3557 8435 (07h to 22h GTS)</span></i><span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;color:rgb(34, 34, 34);line-height:17.9867px;"></span></font></p></div><div style="line-height:21.3px;color:rgb(68, 68, 68);background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);"><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="line-height:22.72px;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;"><font size="2"><i style="line-height:22.72px;"><span style="line-height:22.72px;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;color:rgb(34, 34, 34);">Car: 075 3098 0115 (only responds when driving)</span></i><span style="line-height:17.9867px;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;color:rgb(34, 34, 34);"></span></font></p></div><div style="line-height:21.3px;color:rgb(68, 68, 68);background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);"><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="line-height:22.72px;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;"><i style="line-height:22.72px;"><span style="line-height:22.72px;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;color:rgb(34, 34, 34);"><font size="2">6 Horn Street, Compton, NEWBURY, RG20 6QS</font></span></i></p></div><br><br><div>> From: office@thethread.org.uk<br>> To: cma-l@mailman.commedia.org.uk<br>> Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2016 18:32:58 +0100<br>> Subject: Re: [cma-l] Licences<br>> <br>> Yes I did but as a top figure. When you use language like 'tops' it means a<br>> starting point whereby you have drawn a line in the sand.<br>> You then quite rightly so have the other discussions and argument thrown<br>> into the mix. You have mentioned a couple, I think Eddie mentioned one etc<br>> etc<br>> Remember I was including everything --Internet feed and DAB should we ever<br>> get it.<br>> The point I was trying to make and have been trying to make for years and<br>> years now but clearly struggling is :- we are all doing the same thing with<br>> the end result being providing a Community service with a Bank balance at<br>> the end of the year of ZERO.<br>> <br>> I don't think I'm a Communist or a Socialist nor a Capitalist ......... to<br>> be honest, I don't know what I am anymore so don't read into my suggestions<br>> as political, I just think in our case we should all receive the same from<br>> the fund, we should all pay the same in licences.<br>> <br>> You have to FIX a fee, we need a FIXED FEE if you have a FIXED FEE then<br>> all the other nonsense naturally goes away.<br>> The same applies to the fund .... if you just dole out the same to everyone<br>> you only need one lady sat there with a cheque book for one week in January<br>> writing out the cheques. No more bureaucracy, no more bidding against each<br>> other, and like your suggestion, more in the Pot because you are not paying<br>> Panels to sit 4 times a year. That could go into the fund. It might only be<br>> another £300 quid but it pays the Parasite Fees for a quarter.<br>> <br>> We are doing all of this the wrong way round ... we've got the tail wagging<br>> the Dog. They're dictating the odds because we have no policy, no mandate,<br>> no decision etc etc<br>> By the way, if PRS/PPL are coming to Conference, I wouldn't bother listening<br>> to any speeches, just go straight into ''any questions'' and then stand<br>> aside as you may get trampled underfoot in the stampede LOL<br>> <br>> Nick<br>> <br>> -----Original Message-----<br>> From: cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk<br>> [mailto:cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk] On Behalf Of Alex Gray, Two<br>> Lochs Radio<br>> Sent: 04 July 2016 16:47<br>> To: 'The Community Media Association Discussion List'<br>> Subject: Re: [cma-l] Licences<br>> <br>> Did you really suggest £2k for a blanket licence Nick? I think that would be<br>> way over the top - not only is it a lot more than many of us pay, but I<br>> would argue that the new joint licence should actually be considerably less<br>> than the total average payment at the moment. This is because they are<br>> saving admin costs by switching to one licence, and should be passing on a<br>> good slice of this saving.<br>> <br>> Having a flat rate blanket licence should also greatly further reduce their<br>> admin costs, so if the idea of a blanket flat rate licence were proposed, I<br>> would have said it should be more in the region of £1,000 index-linked for<br>> micro stations (say up to a turnover of £100k index-linked).<br>> <br>> There are other anomalies in the system that I would like to see addressed,<br>> but some are tricky. One for example is that if our programmes are broadcast<br>> 20 miles to our north by a separate Ofcom licence holder, then a second set<br>> of licences is required by PPL/PRS. But if our programmes are also broadcast<br>> to a village 20 miles to our east and a third one 20 miles to our south by<br>> means of off-air relays under our own Ofcom licence, no additional charges<br>> are payable. Go figure.<br>> <br>> Alex<br>> <br>> -----Original Message-----<br>> From: cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk<br>> [mailto:cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk] On Behalf Of Canalside's The<br>> Thread<br>> Sent: 04 July 2016 15:02<br>> To: 'The Community Media Association Discussion List'<br>> <cma-l@mailman.commedia.org.uk><br>> Subject: [cma-l] Licences<br>> <br>> Dear All<br>> <br>> I sent my responses over a week ago, however for the record the 'official'<br>> response has now gone to the CMA + Lucy at PPL, Laura at PRS, Canalside<br>> Staff and Volunteers, Wayne Rooney, Engelburt Humperdinck, Jean Claude<br>> Junker, Barry Manilow, Alan Titchmarsh & Mickey Mouse and of course our<br>> Governing body The Muppets.<br>> <br>> Hopefully this can be thrashed out quickly and then we can all get on with<br>> what we are meant to be doing which most definitely isn't 1) being ripped<br>> off 2) bureaucratic pointless nonsense<br>> <br>> Nick / Chairman of the UK Banging ones head against a brick wall Society<br>> <br>> _______________________________________________<br>> <br>> Reply - cma-l@commedia.org.uk<br>> <br>> The cma-l mailing list is a members' service provided by the Community Media<br>> Association - http://www.commedia.org.uk<br>> Twitter: http://twitter.com/community_media<br>> http://www.facebook.com/CommunityMediaAssociation<br>> Canstream Internet Radio & Video: http://www.canstream.co.uk/<br>> _______________________________________________<br>> <br>> Mailing list guidelines:<br>> http://www.commedia.org.uk/about/cma-email-lists/email-list-guidelines/<br>> _______________________________________________<br>> <br>> To unsubscribe or manage your CMA-L mailing list subscription please visit:<br>> http://mailman.commedia.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/cma-l<br>> <br>> <br>> ---<br>> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.<br>> https://www.avast.com/antivirus<br>> <br>> _______________________________________________<br>> <br>> Reply - cma-l@commedia.org.uk<br>> <br>> The cma-l mailing list is a members' service provided by the Community Media<br>> Association - http://www.commedia.org.uk<br>> Twitter: http://twitter.com/community_media<br>> http://www.facebook.com/CommunityMediaAssociation<br>> Canstream Internet Radio & Video: http://www.canstream.co.uk/<br>> _______________________________________________<br>> <br>> Mailing list guidelines:<br>> http://www.commedia.org.uk/about/cma-email-lists/email-list-guidelines/<br>> _______________________________________________<br>> <br>> To unsubscribe or manage your CMA-L mailing list subscription please visit:<br>> http://mailman.commedia.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/cma-l<br>> <br>> _______________________________________________<br>> <br>> Reply - cma-l@commedia.org.uk<br>> <br>> The cma-l mailing list is a members' service provided by the Community Media Association - http://www.commedia.org.uk<br>> Twitter: http://twitter.com/community_media<br>> http://www.facebook.com/CommunityMediaAssociation<br>> Canstream Internet Radio & Video: http://www.canstream.co.uk/<br>> _______________________________________________<br>> <br>> Mailing list guidelines: http://www.commedia.org.uk/about/cma-email-lists/email-list-guidelines/<br>> _______________________________________________<br>> <br>> To unsubscribe or manage your CMA-L mailing list subscription please visit:<br>> http://mailman.commedia.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/cma-l<br></div></div> </div></body>
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