[cma-l] PPL / PRS for Music mini consultation

Wed Feb 10 18:53:39 GMT 2016

Number one <> correct

Number two <> correct

Number three <> We signed the contract but clearly stated that we don’t
agree with it and that it was being signed in order to get the Monkeeee off
the back and for no other reason. If they don’t agree with OUR contract,
then why do they keep taking the money out of our account ?      ooops    I
forgot 
 we’re moving the goalposts around again.

So actually in Canalsides case, they agree with us, not us agreeing with
them. The big guru in the Ivory Towers knows my feelings, because I’ve told
him.

Like I say 
 at least PRS have got half a brain 
.. they got fed up of
dealing with me, took the money and ran .. good on them I say. PPL 
. Now
they are a different cookie 
. They have defo lost the plot. You know you
are banging your head against a brick wall when they don’t even understand
their own rules and can’t grasp the meaning of the word ‘’’NET’’’ in
relation to not-for-profit groups 

 basically it means = 0   zero
they don’t understand that. Even the guy at the top, the Organ Grinder
doesn’t ‘get it’ ?? so the monkeys have got no chance  :-)

By the way, before anyone says anything, yes I am disrespectful, extremely
disrespectful because I am sick of this sector being treated like dirt,
being bullied, ignored, hung out to dry 

. You earn respect, and all the
folk who have made a complete horlicks of it all don’t deserve any.

One final thing, I was watching the proceedings    re:- the licences a few
weeks ago ----- everyone standing up bowing and cow towing saying how proud
they are to serve under the Chairmanships 
.. how many Chairpeople have we
had since 2002 ?    most of them a complete waste of space sucking up to the
Commercial sector, whilst we’ve still got some Community Radio Stations on
full restrictions ! 
..         

My respect went out the window a long time ago, but you knew that anyway.

Onwards and Upwards

Mr 56 year old Hamster is now back on his wheel

Wrighty

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From: cma-l-bounces at mailman.commedia.org.uk
[mailto:cma-l-bounces at mailman.commedia.org.uk] On Behalf Of Murray Dawson
Sent: 10 February 2016 17:54
To: paul at pvg.co.uk
Cc: The Community Media Association Discussion List
Subject: Re: [cma-l] PPL / PRS for Music mini consultation

I agree Paul - I'd suggest that we are doing them and their artists a favour
at our own expense.

Problem is that we haven't been strong and united as a sector to challenge
the issue.

Now that they've strong-armed most of us into new contracts with the threat
of using their considerable wealth to beat us up in court, we're clearly on
the back foot.

I'm sure there's a fair percentage of the sector that would be willing to
take it on though?

Murray

On 10/02/2016 17:21, Paul Golder wrote:

I've completed the form but my questions are:

1. Why do fees rise above the rate of inflation every year?
2. About 20 years ago I seem to remember PRS or PPL (or both) would waive
their fee for genuine not-for-profit stations undertaking RSL broadcasts.
Why can't PRS and PPL do the same today for the community radio sector?  The
amount of money raised is negligible. Based on information in the public
domain, I estimate that the whole of the UK's community radio sector
contributes 0.02% of PRS's total income. 

[Approx £175k from community radio against a staggering £623m which was
PRS's income in 2009 according to Wikipedia]

I'm sure lots of other people will ask the same, and I doubt I'll get much
joy but I think it's worth a punt from all of us.

Paul Golder

Phoenix FM

On 10 February 2016 at 17:19, Paul Golder <paul at pvg.co.uk> wrote:

I've completed the form but my questions are:

On 10 February 2016 at 16:39, CMA-L <cma-l at commedia.org.uk> wrote:

The Community Media Association is meeting with PPL and PRS for Music this
Friday 12th February 2016.

Please use the form below to detail any specific issues that you would like
us to raise with the music licensing agencies.

http://bit.ly/pplprs

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