[cma-l] Update

Mon Dec 12 14:04:10 GMT 2016

Some work has been done by James Cridland to see if there is a relationship
between the total number of TuneIn followers that a radio station has
and their RAJAR weekly reach

https://media.info/uk/radio/data/rajar-vs-tunein

The Pearson’s Correlation Coefficient between TuneIn and RAJAR, of the data
in the link above, is 0.87. A coefficient above 0.4 is supposed to show a
strong positive relationship; above 0.7 a very strong one.

In the data above, 4.3 is the average multiplier between RAJAR weekly
listening and TuneIn followers. So, if a station has 2,000 TuneIn
followers, they might have have 8,544 listeners on FM.

However the number of TuneIn followers simply shows the total amount of
people who have hit a follow button. RAJAR weekly reach shows people who
listen to a station regularly. More people might listen to a radio station
than the number of followers shows.

Can't read too much into this at the end of the day.

Bill
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Operations Manager
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On 12 December 2016 at 11:40, Ian Hickling <transplanfm at hotmail.com> wrote:

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> The concept of trying to relate online listeners  to a hypothetical FM
> audience wasn't liked.
> It was suggested that a composite package formula comprising the
> known/documented listenership should be presented to potential
> advertiser/sponsors/funders.
> Something we need to work on as an Industry - and it has to be said
> potentially a better prospect than the RAJAR process.
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> Ian Hickling
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> *From:* cma-l-bounces at mailman.commedia.org.uk <cma-l-bounces at mailman.
> commedia.org.uk> on behalf of Ian Hickling <transplanfm at hotmail.com>
> *Sent:* 09 December 2016 20:52:02
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> *Subject:* [cma-l] Update
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> In a recent conversation at Ofcom we had some useful pointers as to how
> the Regulator sees this  - which we'll put together.
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> Ian Hickling
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> *From:* cma-l-bounces at mailman.commedia.org.uk <cma-l-bounces at mailman.
> commedia.org.uk> on behalf of Paul Pennington <
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> *Sent:* 09 December 2016 17:21
> *To:* office at thethread.org.uk; 'The Community Media Association
> Discussion List'
> *Subject:* Re: [cma-l] update
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>
> Thank you Nick for continuing to be the voice of common sense.
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> For me the one thing that stands in the way of the future development of
> community radio is proving how many people are listening – how can you
> demonstrate to government/funders/sponsors/advertisers the impact and
> value of the work everyone puts into each station, without it? How can the
> likes of PRS/PPL set appropriate fees/reporting structures without this
> data? This is a situation that needs to be urgently addressed – it doesn’t
> need another consultation, it needs action.
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> Paul Pennington
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> paulpennington at btconnect.com
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> *From:* cma-l-bounces at mailman.commedia.org.uk [mailto:
> cma-l-bounces at mailman.commedia.org.uk] *On Behalf Of *Canalside's The
> Thread
> *Sent:* 09 December 2016 14:55
> *To:* 'The Community Media Association Discussion List'
> *Subject:* [cma-l] update
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>
> Dear All
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>
> In response if I may please to an e-mail I received from a gentlemen last
> week I would like to point something out that is very important.
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> Regardless how it may seem I am actually a very very positive person and
> lend 100% of my energy and support to our great project that is Community
> Radio. I merely point out the things that I see as wrong. To do this is not
> wrong, it is in fact a duty.
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> In times when the other side of Road to Jericho is packed full, I think
> focus should be given on how we can help each other and especially how
> those in authority can also lend a hand as opposed to putting up barriers.
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>
> Key points :-   (that could be discussed next week)
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>
> 1)      Pro rata the Radio Fund has plummeted over the past 8 years at a
> rate faster than a greased Pig going down a Hill … to add to this, there
> has been a golden opportunity to at least pop a token gesture into the Pot,
> if nothing else. Instead, the 8 Million has gone elsewhere.
>
> 2)      Over a period of a number of years and many consultations it is
> now technically taken ‘as read’ that to run the AVERAGE/GENERAL Community
> Radio Station under AVERAGE/GENERAL rules we ON AVERAGE need around £80,000
> per-annum. This is well known within and outside the sector. However, we
> still have a 50% ruling (which I don’t agree with as know, nor do I agree
> with any restrictions apart from targeting ‘the spend)      this 50% ruling
> if applied correctly, surely should at least come out at an allowance fee
> of ‘’’half’’’     ie:- £40,000 Pounds as opposed to £15,000 which is the
> point the restrictions kick in. At least what this would do is loosen the
> straight jacket, and give plenty of room for manoeuvre ………… and still
> provide protection to those about to throw their Toys out of the Pram.
>
> 3)      Tweaks (only tweaks) to Licences where both the Station itself
> and Ofcom ‘got it wrong’            this in our case could simply be adding
> ONE WORD to the Licence and where permitted allowing some Stations (as long
> as it caused no one else a problem) a small power boost.
>
> 4)      An acknowledgement that Key commitments can actually change, and
> change back again over a period as short as 12 months, sometimes out of
> control of the actual Station itself, and waiting for a consultation to
> come round again is not helping anyone.
>
> 5)      PRS/PPL actually doing the decent thing and acknowledging that
> ALL OF US are not for profit, and although at the end of each year we may
> have £5,000 - £10,000 in the account, this is in fact only a type of
> ‘float’ and not profit. We are being asked to report on nothing. This is
> also a matter of principal and not the amount of money. We report on how
> many songs we play per-hour and then send the agreed average/minimum fee.
> Yet again it seems we have had another process with opportunities missed,
> that in reality would have pleased and sufficed everyone concerned.
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> There are others, but it’s Christmas and I won’t bore you. The gentleman
> in question, please don’t shoot the messenger and don’t have a pop at those
> who are trying to help, even if the method is a bit off-piste. My only
> crime is, I just say it as it is, as pussyfootying around doesn’t bode well
> with my make up.
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> I have always tried to remain polite, it has just been the odd time
> frustration gets the better of all of us.
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> Is ones heart in the right place is the key question for all of us ???
> ---------- the answer to that is most definitely ‘’yes’’       I always try
> to add a bit of humour to the observation to keep it light, even though it
> may be mixed with a touch of sarcasm.
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> All Mariah Carey wants for Christmas is you, All Mr N H Dumpty wants is a
> bit of common sense and all this nonsense gone by Spring 2017. Everything
> is possible you simply have to have the get up and go and the will power.
>
> Let’s have another go ……………. Get a big meeting and get everyone in the
> same room --- DCMS/Ofcom/PRS/PPL and Uncle Tom Cobbley
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> Onwards and Upwards
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> Feliz Navidad
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> Nick
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