<div dir="ltr"><div>Some work has been done by James Cridland to see if there is a relationship between the total number of TuneIn followers that a radio station has and their RAJAR weekly reach</div><div><br></div><div><a href="https://media.info/uk/radio/data/rajar-vs-tunein">https://media.info/uk/radio/data/rajar-vs-tunein</a></div><div><div><br></div><div>The Pearson’s Correlation Coefficient between TuneIn and RAJAR, of the data in the link above, is 0.87. A coefficient above 0.4 is supposed to show a strong positive relationship; above 0.7 a very strong one.</div><div><br></div><div>In the data above, 4.3 is the average multiplier between RAJAR weekly listening and TuneIn followers. So, if a station has 2,000 TuneIn followers, they might have have 8,544 listeners on FM.</div><div><br></div><div>However the number of TuneIn followers simply shows the total amount of people who have hit a follow button. RAJAR weekly reach shows people who listen to a station regularly. More people might listen to a radio station than the number of followers shows.</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">Can't read too much into this at the end of the day.</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">Bill</div><div class="gmail_extra">-- <br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><span><div><div><div><div><div>Operations Manager<br></div>Community Media Association<br></div><a href="http://www.commedia.org.uk" target="_blank">http://www.commedia.org.uk</a><br></div><div><a href="https://twitter.com/community_media" target="_blank">https://twitter.com/community_media</a><br></div><div><a href="https://facebook.com/CommunityMediaAssociation" target="_blank">https://facebook.com/CommunityMediaAssociation</a><br><br></div><div></div>Canstream Internet Radio<br></div><a href="http://www.canstream.co.uk" target="_blank">http://www.canstream.co.uk</a><br></div><a href="https://twitter.com/canstream" target="_blank">https://twitter.com/canstream</a></span></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On 12 December 2016 at 11:40, Ian Hickling <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:transplanfm@hotmail.com" target="_blank">transplanfm@hotmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<p>The concept of trying to relate online listeners to a hypothetical FM audience wasn't liked.<br>
It was suggested that a composite package formula comprising the known/documented listenership should be presented to potential advertiser/sponsors/funders.<br>
Something we need to work on as an Industry - and it has to be said potentially a better prospect than the RAJAR process.</p><span class="gmail-">
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<b>Sent:</b> 09 December 2016 20:52:02<span class="gmail-"><br>
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<p>In a recent conversation at Ofcom we had some useful pointers as to how the Regulator sees this - which we'll put together.</p>
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<b>Sent:</b> 09 December 2016 17:21<br>
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<span style="color:rgb(31,73,125)">Thank you Nick for continuing to be the voice of common sense. </span></p>
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<span style="color:rgb(31,73,125)">For me the one thing that stands in the way of the future development of community radio is proving how many people are listening – how can you demonstrate to government/funders/sponsors/<wbr>advertisers the impact and value of the work
everyone puts into each station, without it? How can the likes of PRS/PPL set appropriate fees/reporting structures without this data? This is a situation that needs to be urgently addressed – it doesn’t need another consultation, it needs action.
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<b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;font-family:tahoma,sans-serif"> <a href="mailto:cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk" target="_blank">cma-l-bounces@mailman.<wbr>commedia.org.uk</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk" target="_blank">cma-l-bounces@mailman.<wbr>commedia.org.uk</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Canalside's The Thread<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 09 December 2016 14:55<br>
<b>To:</b> 'The Community Media Association Discussion List'<br>
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Dear All</p>
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In response if I may please to an e-mail I received from a gentlemen last week I would like to point something out that is very important.</p>
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Regardless how it may seem I am actually a very very positive person and lend 100% of my energy and support to our great project that is Community Radio. I merely point out the things that I see as wrong. To do this is not wrong, it is in fact a duty.</p>
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In times when the other side of Road to Jericho is packed full, I think focus should be given on how we can help each other and especially how those in authority can also lend a hand as opposed to putting up barriers.</p>
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Key points :- (that could be discussed next week)</p>
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1)<span style="font-size:7pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif"> </span>
Pro rata the Radio Fund has plummeted over the past 8 years at a rate faster than a greased Pig going down a Hill … to add to this, there has been a golden opportunity to at least pop a token gesture into the Pot, if nothing else. Instead, the 8 Million has
gone elsewhere.</p>
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2)<span style="font-size:7pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif"> </span>
Over a period of a number of years and many consultations it is now technically taken ‘as read’ that to run the AVERAGE/GENERAL Community Radio Station under AVERAGE/GENERAL rules we ON AVERAGE need around £80,000 per-annum. This is well known within and outside
the sector. However, we still have a 50% ruling (which I don’t agree with as know, nor do I agree with any restrictions apart from targeting ‘the spend) this 50% ruling if applied correctly, surely should at least come out at an allowance fee of ‘’’half’’’
ie:- £40,000 Pounds as opposed to £15,000 which is the point the restrictions kick in. At least what this would do is loosen the straight jacket, and give plenty of room for manoeuvre ………… and still provide protection to those about to throw their Toys out
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3)<span style="font-size:7pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif"> </span>
Tweaks (only tweaks) to Licences where both the Station itself and Ofcom ‘got it wrong’ this in our case could simply be adding ONE WORD to the Licence and where permitted allowing some Stations (as long as it caused no one else a problem) a small
power boost.</p>
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An acknowledgement that Key commitments can actually change, and change back again over a period as short as 12 months, sometimes out of control of the actual Station itself, and waiting for a consultation to come round again is not helping anyone.</p>
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PRS/PPL actually doing the decent thing and acknowledging that ALL OF US are not for profit, and although at the end of each year we may have £5,000 - £10,000 in the account, this is in fact only a type of ‘float’ and not profit. We are being asked to report
on nothing. This is also a matter of principal and not the amount of money. We report on how many songs we play per-hour and then send the agreed average/minimum fee. Yet again it seems we have had another process with opportunities missed, that in reality
would have pleased and sufficed everyone concerned.</p>
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There are others, but it’s Christmas and I won’t bore you. The gentleman in question, please don’t shoot the messenger and don’t have a pop at those who are trying to help, even if the method is a bit off-piste. My only crime is, I just say it as it is, as
pussyfootying around doesn’t bode well with my make up.</p>
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I have always tried to remain polite, it has just been the odd time frustration gets the better of all of us.</p>
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Is ones heart in the right place is the key question for all of us ??? ---------- the answer to that is most definitely ‘’yes’’ I always try to add a bit of humour to the observation to keep it light, even though it may be mixed with a touch of sarcasm.</p>
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All Mariah Carey wants for Christmas is you, All Mr N H Dumpty wants is a bit of common sense and all this nonsense gone by Spring 2017. Everything is possible you simply have to have the get up and go and the will power.</p>
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Let’s have another go ……………. Get a big meeting and get everyone in the same room --- DCMS/Ofcom/PRS/PPL and Uncle Tom Cobbley</p>
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Onwards and Upwards</p>
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