[cma-l] Radio 1 Eleven Times Better than Commercial Radio? – FM Spectrum Consumption in the UK

Mon Jul 13 14:03:10 BST 2015

Sorry - No"Better than" implies "in addition to" - that is - with the original status maintained - not with it added in.No different from "Eleven times greater than....""More than" has to be an addition to what is already there."As many as" is a multiplier of what is already there - that's the differenceI refer back to the concept of "one time better than" - which although we do not use, has to be acceptable in a mathematical system - and means "twice as good as"Radio engineers may say that - but it's not right - is it?6dB in power (rather than voltage or current) terms is an arithmetical factor of four - so 6dB up is four times the power (or "as powerful".That says it all - surely?

Ian Hickling
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From: tlr at gairloch.co.uk
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Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2015 13:26:19 +0100
CC: domchambers at somervalleyfm.co.uk
Subject: Re: [cma-l]	Radio 1 Eleven Times Better than Commercial Radio? – FM Spectrum Consumption in the UK

I entirely understand your point Ian, but actually 
in this context I think the phrase "x times better" is the conventional English 
way of saying 'a value that is 11 times the value of the original'.

I think most radio engineers would say that +6dB 
is 'four times more powerful', not 'three times more powerful', even 
if linguistically that might be more accurate.

Just saying...

Alex

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  Ian 
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  Subject: [cma-l] Radio 1 Eleven Times 
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  Can we get this on to a mathematically sound basis please?
  Sorry - pet hate - but let's be accurate with numbers.
  "Eleven times better" is the same as "Twelve times as good" - so why not 
  use the "better" number?
  If you don't follow this - work out what "One time better" would be - 
  it has to be "Twice as good" - and then follow 
  the sequence.
  Use numbers wrongly and you mis-inform.

  Ian Hickling
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  Office: 01635 578435  (7am-11pm UK time)
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  From: cma-l at commedia.org.uk
Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2015 10:50:46 +0100
To: 
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Subject: [cma-l] Is Radio 1 Eleven Times Better than 
  Commercial Radio? – FM Spectrum Consumption in the UK

  It’s a deliberately provocative title – “Is 
  Radio 1 Eleven Times Better than Commercial Radio?”  That is to say, 
  does it deserve to be able to use 11 times more FM spectrum resource per 
  listener than Commercial radio?  We could equally have asked:-

    “Is Radio Cymru fourteen hundred times better than Community 
    radio?”  or
    “Is BBC Radio 3 three times better than Classic FM?”
  These questions stem from an analysis we have 
  done of the way our FM radio spectrum is consumed in the UK.  All 
  things being equal, then approximately the same amount of this precious 
  resource called “spectrum” should be consumed for each listener.  
  But as we will see, things are far from equal.More here from Glyn 
  Roylance:

http://a-bc.co.uk/radio-1-eleven-times-better-commercial-radio-fm-spectrum-utilisation-uk/

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