[cma-l] Cat Among The Pigeons...!

Wed Jan 21 14:25:11 GMT 2015

Hi Nick,

While I understand and sometimes admire your 'bunker' mentality I don't agree with your concept that community radio is a 'network' it is a sector of a much larger r media industry and generally perceived as a very poor relation because of the overall quality of its product. (that perception has to change before sector credibility improves)

While it is great to shout about the problems this sector (not network) needs to solve we must continue provide a solution or two.

Heres a sample proposal this sector could act upon to promote some sector unity. I mentioned in a previous post to Pippa...

'You mention one very important issue and that is ‘growth’. Wecan'tgrow geographically nor do we want to… (5k radius and all that). Individually, we can grow by gaining the respect of those we broadcast to, we can collectively build a (watch out, dirty wording spoiler) brand of ‘individuality’ and we can collectively build a ‘social enterprise’ brand.
We could do this through CMA, some high quality ad scripts, voiced by a respected well known voice (collectively we could afford that). Then we collectively run a campaign (one month duration) across community stations that promotes individuality/social enterprise/localness. Tools used in campaign are promos/ads/interviews/ presenter links. We all do it at the same time of year… every year!
Community Radio, Collectively Promoting Our Individuality.
Nick...Lad, I don't care if the Sector moves forward with this. It is more likely that we'll have a jolly good chat about it here and no more. After all this is just a forum and exists to promote diverse opinions in this sector (and honestly a bit of a distraction at times).

What is very clear to me is one thing. The Community Radio Sector has many people who are great at applying for licences! But not so good at running a radio station!
Terry................ Doyle

On 20 January 2015, Canalside's The Thread <office at thethread.org.uk> wrote:
> Valid points here Terry lad ….. I do think however you have got slightly (only slightly) the wrong end of the stick.
> I think it is mix and match. You are always going to just get those who wish to do a show. You try to encourage them to do other things, but they don’t. I suppose you do end up going a bit squidgy in the middle and letting them get on with it, whilst you do the Donkey work on top of your other Donkey work.
> 
> Our place is such a mess at the moment, it looks like Steptoes yard … it’ll be the same three trying to tidy it up, with our normal tasks still to do, and going home at 10:30pm at night.
> 
> Sadly what happens is I like you get wound up, frustrated, angry etc but then the little light goes on in my head …. I ask myself ‘’what is my main task here’’ my main task is to try and provide a service for our Community / Volunteers / Pretend Volunteers / Presenters / Work Experience / Local Clubs, Organisations and Charities the list is endless ….if I have to go through the graft to provide it, then my conscience is clear when I go to bed at night. We have put a smile on hundreds of folks faces over the 11 years …. They never dreamt they would ever be on Radio.
> 
> Some would argue that technically you are allowing yourself and one or two others to get walked all over ...that’s maybe true, but I have been told by the Big man in the sky that under the rules of incarnation, I am actually coming back as a Carpet, so this is my training period LOLJ
> 
> When Glyn said own agenda, I think he just meant ‘doing a show’ - we have a format and Presenters are supposed to be sticking to it ….. one or two do try to swing the lead, but they have to be up before their breakfast to catch me out, I don’t miss a trick.
> 
> On the second one, I never meant straight generic imaging INSTEAD OF I meant AS WELL AS even if this was just one sweeper that said ‘’Canalsides The Thread 102.8fm is a member of the United Kingdom Community Radio Network’’ ‘’for further details contact the CMA on bla b la bla or www. Etc etc
> 
> That’s all ………………….oh and by the way yes we are a network, and if we had operated like a proper network as opposed to some operating in the ‘’I’m alright jack category’’ we would be a lot further down the road than we are now. If folk had listened to some of my suggestions and implemented them we would be flying now, and many of the things APPARENTLY being announced in favour of us in February (I’ll believe it when I see it) would have happened 4 years ago.
> 
> For example, one absolute classic case …………the Community Radio Fund. Everyone receives the same, you are all then on a level playing field, equal and batting on the same team … you then tackle the Government head on as a proper group and get more money in the pot. It might only be another £500,000, but it’s better than nothing. They know they will never have a battle on there hands as long as some are getting nowt and others are walking off with £30,000 which has happened and it is NOT acceptable.
> We’re stronger together, and I mean properly together and not a talking lip-service shop.
> 
> Hang in there guys we shall overcome
> 
> Nick
> 
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Terry Doyle <<terrydoyle at nnbc.co.uk>>
> 
> Hi
> 
> I have spent some time reading through some of the threads here and my temperature is rising slowly as my anger threshold gets closer. Two points!
> 
> 1.Presenters With Their Own Agenda?
> 
> What are they doing on your station in the first place and more importantly, why do you allow them to broadcast in the first place?
> 
> It doesn’t matter if they are volunteers! Just because you don’t pay them does not give them the right to use your station to broadcast the little radio station in their heads.
> 
> Solution! Get them to sign a voluntary agreement that says they follow the station format/guidelines designed by you - The Station Manager (you have got a written station/programmes format… don’t you?).
> 
> If they don’t sign this agreement, they don’t get within fifty yards of a mic. If they do sign and break the rules then… you can wave goodbye and replace them with someone who will follow station direction…simple!
> 
> Presenters on air with their own agenda = weak programme management.
> 
> 2. Common Station Imaging Across Community Radio
> 
> NO NO NO. We are NOT a network and when we start to think we are… we move towards our own downfall!
> 
> Think individuality, creativity and innovation.
> 
> Terry Doyle
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> NNBC
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