Hi Nick,<div><br /></div><div>While I understand and sometimes admire your 'bunker' mentality I don't agree with your concept that community radio is a 'network' it is a sector of a much larger r media industry and generally perceived as a very poor relation because of the overall quality of its product. (that perception has to change before sector credibility improves) </div><div><br /></div><div>While it is great to shout about the problems this sector (not network) needs to solve we must continue provide a solution or two.</div><div><br /></div><div>Heres a sample proposal this sector could act upon to promote some sector unity. I mentioned in a previous post to Pippa... </div><div><br /></div><div><p class="oneComWebmail-MsoNormal" style="margin: 1em 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><font color="#0000ff"><font face="Open Sans, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif"><i><span style="font-size: 11pt;">'You mention one very important issue and that is ‘growth’. We </span><span style="font-size: 15px;">can't</span><span style="font-size: 11pt;"> grow geographically nor do we want to… (5k radius and all that). Individually, we can grow by gaining the respect of those we broadcast to, we can collectively build a (watch out, dirty wording spoiler) brand of ‘individuality’ and we can collectively build a ‘social enterprise’ brand.</span></i></font></font></p><p class="oneComWebmail-MsoNormal" style="margin: 1em 0px; font-family: 'Open Sans', 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><span style="font-size: 11pt;"><font color="#0000ff"><i>We could do this through CMA, some high quality ad scripts, voiced by a respected well known voice (collectively we could afford that). Then we collectively run a campaign (one month duration) across community stations that promotes individuality/social enterprise/localness. Tools used in campaign are promos/ads/interviews/ presenter links. We all do it at the same time of year… every year!</i></font></span></p><p class="oneComWebmail-MsoNormal" style="margin: 1em 0px; font-family: 'Open Sans', 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><i><span style="font-size: 11pt;"><font color="#0000ff"> </font></span><span style="font-size: 11pt;"><font color="#0000ff"><u>Community Radio, Collectively Promoting Our Individuality.</u></font></span></i></p></div><div>Nick...<b><u>Lad</u></b>, I don't care if the Sector moves forward with this. It is more likely that we'll have a jolly good chat about it here and no more. After all this is just a forum and exists to promote diverse opinions in this sector (and honestly a bit of a distraction at times). </div><div><br /></div><div><u>What is very clear to me is one thing. The Community Radio Sector has many people who are great at applying for licences! But not so good at running a radio station!</u></div><div><br /></div><div>Terry................ Doyle<br /><br /><p>On 20 January 2015, Canalside's The Thread <office@thethread.org.uk> wrote:</p><blockquote type="cite"><div class="oneComWebmail-html oneComWebmail-mail">
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<p class="oneComWebmail-MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">Valid points here Terry lad ….. I do
think however you have got slightly (only slightly) the wrong end of the
stick.</span></font></p>
<p class="oneComWebmail-MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">I think it is mix and match. You are
always going to just get those who wish to do a show. You try to encourage them
to do other things, but they don’t. I suppose you do end up going a bit squidgy
in the middle and letting them get on with it, whilst you do the Donkey work on
top of your other Donkey work.</span></font></p>
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<p class="oneComWebmail-MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">Our place is such a mess at the moment, it
looks like Steptoes yard … it’ll be the same three trying to tidy
it up, with our normal tasks still to do, and going home at 10:30pm at night.</span></font></p>
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<p class="oneComWebmail-MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">Sadly what happens is I like you get wound
up, frustrated, angry etc but then the little light goes on in my head ….
I ask myself ‘’what is my main task here’’ my main
task is to try and provide a service for our Community / Volunteers / Pretend
Volunteers / Presenters / Work Experience / Local Clubs, Organisations and
Charities the list is endless ….if I have to go through the graft to
provide it, then my conscience is clear when I go to bed at night. We have put
a smile on hundreds of folks faces over the 11 years …. They never dreamt
they would ever be on Radio.</span></font></p>
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<p class="oneComWebmail-MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">Some would argue that technically you are
allowing yourself and one or two others to get walked all over ...that’s
maybe true, but I have been told by the Big man in the sky that under the rules
of incarnation, I am actually coming back as a Carpet, so this is my training
period LOL </span></font><font size="2" color="navy" face="Wingdings"><span style="font-size: 10.0pt; color: navy;">J</span></font><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"></span></font></p>
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<p class="oneComWebmail-MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">When Glyn said own agenda, I think he just
meant ‘doing a show’ - we have a format and Presenters are
supposed to be sticking to it ….. one or two do try to swing the lead,
but they have to be up before their breakfast to catch me out, I don’t
miss a trick.</span></font></p>
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<p class="oneComWebmail-MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">On the second one, I never meant straight
generic imaging INSTEAD OF I meant AS WELL AS even if this was just
one sweeper that said ‘’Canalsides The Thread 102.8fm is a member
of the United Kingdom Community Radio Network’’ ‘’for
further details contact the CMA on bla b la bla or www. Etc etc</span></font></p>
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<p class="oneComWebmail-MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">That’s all ………………….oh
and by the way yes we are a network, and if we had operated like a proper
network as opposed to some operating in the ‘’I’m alright
jack category’’ we would be a lot further down the road than we
are now. If folk had listened to some of my suggestions and implemented them we
would be flying now, and many of the things APPARENTLY being announced in
favour of us in February (I’ll believe it when I see it) would have
happened 4 years ago.</span></font></p>
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<p class="oneComWebmail-MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">For example, one absolute classic case …………the
Community Radio Fund. Everyone receives the same, you are all then on a level
playing field, equal and batting on the same team … you then tackle the
Government head on as a proper group and get more money in the pot. It might
only be another £500,000, but it’s better than nothing. They know they
will never have a battle on there hands as long as some are getting nowt and
others are walking off with £30,000 which has happened and it is NOT
acceptable.</span></font></p>
<p class="oneComWebmail-MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">We’re stronger together, and I mean
properly together and not a talking lip-service shop.</span></font></p>
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<p class="oneComWebmail-MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">Hang in there guys we shall overcome</span></font></p>
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<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> 20 January 2015 17:33<br />
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From: Terry Doyle <<a href="mailto:terrydoyle@nnbc.co.uk" target="_blank">terrydoyle@nnbc.co.uk</a>><br />
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Hi<br />
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I have spent some time reading through some of the threads here and my
temperature is rising slowly as my anger threshold gets closer. Two
points!<br />
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<b><u><span style="font-weight: bold;">1.Presenters With Their Own Agenda?</span></u></b><br />
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What are they doing on your station in the first place and more importantly,
why do you allow them to broadcast in the first place?<br />
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It doesn’t matter if they are volunteers! Just because you don’t
pay them does not give them the right to use your station to broadcast the
little radio station in their heads.<br />
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Solution! Get them to sign a voluntary agreement that says they follow the
station format/guidelines designed by you - The Station Manager (you have got a
written station/programmes format… don’t you?).<br />
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If they don’t sign this agreement, they don’t get within fifty
yards of a mic. If they do sign and break the rules then… you can wave
goodbye and replace them with someone who will follow station
direction…simple!<br />
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Presenters on air with their own agenda = weak programme management.<br />
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<b><u><span style="font-weight: bold;">2. Common Station Imaging Across Community
Radio</span></u></b><br />
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NO NO NO. We are NOT a network and when we start to think we are…
we move towards our own downfall!<br />
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Think individuality, creativity and innovation.<br />
<br />
Terry Doyle<br />
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NNBC</span></font></p>
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