[cma-l] Cat Among The Pigeons...!

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And another              go to the top of the class .......you see, after a
jolly good discussion, a few toys chucked out of the pram, a mini rant or
two, a few frustrated members, we're actually a jolly little bunch of people
of great loveliness and do believe it or not all sing from the same hymn
sheet .. Some are baritone and some a falsetto, but the words are the same.

We only end up in trouble if Terry is singing Onward Christian soldiers, Ian
and Pippa are humming Immortal Invisible and I'm on He who should valiant be
. then it sounds a complete horlicks   :-)

 

Let's all stick to Fight the good fight with all our might ...that should
send us all in the same direction hand in hand

 

Nick

 

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[mailto:cma-l-bounces at mailman.commedia.org.uk] On Behalf Of CMA Forum
Sent: 21 January 2015 11:32
To: 'The Community Media Association Discussion List'
Subject: Re: [cma-l] Cat Among The Pigeons...!

 

Hi Richard, 

I think you miss the point.if I have 100 presenters doing their own thing I
have a station not worth listening to. In this scenario 'the lunatics have
taken over the asylum' and unfortunately that is what some stations sound
like. listeners are not stupid and will go elsewhere!

 

If I have 100 presenters who present programmes of any kind that have been
subject to documented discussion and agreement in advance by the person who
holds overall editorial control (setting a standard) you have a managed
station output monitored and focussed. 

 

Community station managers forget that YOU HAVE TO MANAGE YOUR OUTPUT.
Regardless of the fact that you are a community station, your output is your
product.  If you don't. Take next turn left down the road to Ruin.

 

Presenters are expendable. However, lose a sales person and you lose six
months revenue and that's another story.

 

Rgds

 

Terry Doyle

 

From: cma-l-bounces at mailman.commedia.org.uk
[mailto:cma-l-bounces at mailman.commedia.org.uk] On Behalf Of Richard Berry
Sent: 21 January 2015 10:44
To: The Community Media Association Discussion List
Subject: Re: [cma-l] Cat Among The Pigeons...!

 

There is a problem here, and one that is probably unique to community radio.
As stations we want to allow people to make the programmes they feel their
community want to hear. We should also allow them access to the airwaves.
However, there is a balance between leaving the studio open for anyone to
wander in and start broadcasting, and dictating what they need to say in
every link. At times it can feel like presenters have the whip hand, after
all without them we're screwed. If we don't pay them, then how far can we
push them into doing stuff they don't want to do. Can we make the music fan
interview the local charity group about their fundraising bike ride if they
really don't want to? It's tricky. 

 

I'd agree it's about explaining what the responsibility is off being on the
air, and who it is who actually the owns the airtime. It's also about the
community of the station, and persuading volunteers that what they
collectively is important but only if they pull together, and in the same
direction. I'm often torn about the sound of a station. I love the fact that
when I put on some community stations I hear music I'd never normally hear,
and voices I'd never normally hear at all times of the day. Marginalised
voices are there front and centre in the middle of the day, and not cast
aside to the wee small hours. At the same time, some stations try this and
just seem to lurch around with no clear sense of what it is they are trying
to do. This is where good management comes in, people who can steer the ship
on a steady course but still allow volunteers to feel empowered enough to do
their own thing, but motivated enough to listen to direction and see the
station as a whole, to which they contribute. 

 

I'd agree we don't want one sound, but we also should be a network. A
network that shares ideas, content, people, equipment and support. We should
work (and join) the CMA to help us speak with one voice. In the same way
that we are discussing whether presenters have too much control to do what
they like, is there a sense that as a sector we often don't speak with the
same voice enough? And if we did, that voice might stand a greater chance of
being heard? 

 

I'm sure there is a research project in there.. If only I had the time

 

Richard

 

 

Richard Berry
Senior Lecturer in Radio / Spark FM Station Manager
Room 101B, David Puttnam Media Centre,
University of Sunderland, SR6 0DD
(+44) 0191 515 2239

 

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From: cma-l-bounces at mailman.commedia.org.uk
[mailto:cma-l-bounces at mailman.commedia.org.uk] On Behalf Of Neilm
Sent: 20 January 2015 18:28
To: The Community Media Association Discussion List
Subject: Re: [cma-l] Cat Among The Pigeons...!

 

At last sense! Have spent the last week with my finger on the delete button
!

Neil

Susy Radio

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On 20 Jan 2015, at 17:33, CMA-L <cma-l at commedia.org.uk> wrote:

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Terry Doyle <terrydoyle at nnbc.co.uk>

Hi

I have spent some time reading through some of the threads here and my
temperature is rising slowly as my anger threshold gets closer.  Two points!

1.Presenters With Their Own Agenda?

What are they doing on your station in the first place and more importantly,
why do you allow them to broadcast in the first place?

It doesn't matter if they are volunteers! Just because you don't pay them
does not give them the right to use your station to broadcast the little
radio station in their heads.

Solution! Get them to sign a voluntary agreement that says they follow the
station format/guidelines designed by you - The Station Manager (you have
got a written station/programmes format. don't you?).

If they don't sign this agreement, they don't get within fifty yards of a
mic. If they do sign and break the rules then. you can wave goodbye and
replace them with someone who will follow station direction.simple!

Presenters on air with their own agenda = weak programme management.

2. Common Station Imaging Across Community Radio

NO NO NO.  We are NOT a network and when we start to think we are. we move
towards our own downfall!

Think individuality, creativity and innovation.

Terry Doyle

NNBC

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