[cma-l] DCMS consultation meetings on amendments to communityradio law

Clive Glover clive.glover at btconnect.com
Sat Oct 15 12:17:00 BST 2011 

Alan

Thanks for this!

I think this is something I have assumed from being one of the first round licensees - it was something we were told then - 25W V and 25W H was the "maximum" power we could have. In fact we moved last year to a much better transmitter site but where we were limited for planning reasons to a simple vertical antenna and OFCOM agreed we could run 50W V. Maybe we should have pushed for more as there are still a few more reception areas within our locality (a future project I think).

regards,

Clive
On 14 Oct 2011, at 18:14, Office - ccr-fm wrote:

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> From: cma-l-bounces at mailman.commedia.org.uk [mailto:cma-l-bounces at mailman.commedia.org.uk] On Behalf Of Alan Coote
> Sent: 14 October 2011 15:35
> To: ian at transplan.uk.com; clive.glover at lineone.net; 'Jaqui Devereux'
> Cc: 'cma-l'
> Subject: Re: [cma-l] DCMS consultation meetings on amendments to communityradio law
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> Hi Ian et al,
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> In simple terms, Ofcom says "Tell us the Community you wish to cover - and how you propose doing it.
> If you look on Ofcom's published "TX Params", you'll see the stations that have asked for and got much higher powers and sites.
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> My direct experience is that this simply not true!
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> Ofcom hide behind what they have called a ‘Policy’ to  limit CR to 25 Watts ERP. The restriction is real and affects many stations outside of remote parts of Wales and Scotland. There are 21 stations which have great than 25W ERP.
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> For the rest of us, the 5km limit is arbitrary and a nonsense. It should be removed.
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> Alan
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> From: cma-l-bounces at mailman.commedia.org.uk [mailto:cma-l-bounces at mailman.commedia.org.uk] On Behalf Of Ian Hickling
> Sent: 13 October 2011 11:22 PM
> To: clive.glover at lineone.net; Jaqui Devereux
> Cc: cma-l
> Subject: [cma-l] DCMS consultation meetings on amendments to community radio law
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>  
> Clive
> At the risk of being guilty of perpetual repetition, can I take you up on one point:
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> The restrictions on transmitter power to 50 watts and the "5km" radius for CR stations are unnecessarily restrictive. Stations should be able to make the case for covering a defined local community area and the transmitter power to do this should be agreed as a technical/engineering matter with OFCOM engineers. However, defining the whole of London or Manchester etc as your community would be taking it too far!
> 
> There never has been that hypothetical 50W/5km restriction.
> It's a guideline.
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> It has always been the situation that ".......stations should be able to make the case for covering a defined local community area and the transmitter power to do this should be agreed as a technical/engineering matter ......
> It's a distinct section of the Application document.
>  
> In simple terms, Ofcom says "Tell us the Community you wish to cover - and how you propose doing it.
> If you look on Ofcom's published "TX Params", you'll see the stations that have asked for and got much higher powers and sites.
> 
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> Ian Hickling
> Partner
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> transplan UK
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> > From: clive.glover at lineone.net
> > Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 18:19:54 +0100
> > To: jaqui.devereux at commedia.org.uk
> > CC: cma-l at commedia.org.uk
> > Subject: Re: [cma-l] DCMS consultation meetings on amendments to community radio law
> > 
> > Jaqui
> > 
> > Obviously the rules limiting or prohibiting advertising on some stations should be removed. They were intended to limit competition for local commercial stations and I doubt this Government would want to be seen to be limiting competition!
> > 
> > The rules preventing CR stations being licenced in areas where there are existing commercial stations (but not the other way round) are inequitable and should be removed.
> > 
> > The 50% commercial income rule causes us no problems, nor many other stations and has the advantage of showing a clear distinction between commercial and community stations. The ability to offset real commercial income against a notional value for volunteer time means that this should not create problems for the majority of CR stations, although I accept it may for a few.
> > 
> > The restrictions on transmitter power to 50 watts and the "5km" radius for CR stations are unnecessarily restrictive. Stations should be able to make the case for covering a defined local community area and the transmitter power to do this should be agreed as a technical/engineering matter with OFCOM engineers. However, defining the whole of London or Manchester etc as your community would be taking it too far!
> > 
> > Hope this helps!
> > 
> > regards,
> > 
> > Clive
> > On 13 Oct 2011, at 13:51, Jaqui Devereux wrote:
> > 
> > > Dear all
> > > 
> > > The DCMS will be co-hosting a couple of meetings with us, probably in
> > > the New Year, to discuss possible amendments to the law on community
> > > radio, as part of the new Communications Bill.
> > > 
> > > We are writing to ask your views on what the agenda should cover - we
> > > do have quite a few ideas on what you might want but would prefer you
> > > to tell us!
> > > 
> > > Almost certainly community radio advertising rules (all of them) will
> > > be on the agenda, but what other subjects would you like on it?
> > > 
> > > Please do let us know,
> > > 
> > > Best wishes
> > > 
> > > Jaqui
> > > 
> > > -- 
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