<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Alan<div><br></div><div>Thanks for this!</div><div><br></div><div>I think this is something I have assumed from being one of the first round licensees - it was something we were told then - 25W V and 25W H was the "maximum" power we could have. In fact we moved last year to a much better transmitter site but where we were limited for planning reasons to a simple vertical antenna and OFCOM agreed we could run 50W V. Maybe we should have pushed for more as there are still a few more reception areas within our locality (a future project I think).</div><div><br></div><div>regards,</div><div><br></div><div>Clive<br><div><div>On 14 Oct 2011, at 18:14, Office - ccr-fm wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite">
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[mailto:cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk] <b><span style="font-weight:
bold">On Behalf Of </span></b>Alan Coote<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> 14 October 2011 15:35<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> <a href="mailto:ian@transplan.uk.com">ian@transplan.uk.com</a>;
<a href="mailto:clive.glover@lineone.net">clive.glover@lineone.net</a>; 'Jaqui Devereux'<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Cc:</span></b> 'cma-l'<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> Re: [cma-l] DCMS
consultation meetings on amendments to communityradio law</span></font><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:
12.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D">Hi Ian et al,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><i><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-style:italic">In simple terms,
Ofcom says "Tell us the Community you wish to cover - and how you propose
doing it.<br>
If you look on Ofcom's published "TX Params", you'll see the stations
that have asked for and got much higher powers and sites.<o:p></o:p></span></font></i></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D">My direct experience
is that this simply not true! <o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D">Ofcom hide behind
what they have called a ‘Policy’ to limit CR to 25 Watts ERP.
The restriction is real and affects many stations outside of remote parts of <st1:country-region w:st="on">Wales</st1:country-region> and <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Scotland</st1:place></st1:country-region>. There are 21 stations
which have great than 25W ERP.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D">For the rest of us,
the 5km limit is arbitrary and a nonsense. It should be removed.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D">Alan<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D">Alan Coote<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D">Business Development
Director <o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D">The Bay Radio<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D">Office 01202 580200<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D">Studio 01202 571028<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D">Mobile 07801 518858<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D">Email <a href="mailto:alan.coote@thebayradio.com">alan.coote@thebayradio.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D">Web <a href="http://www.thebayradio.com/">www.thebayradio.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D">The Bay Radio, 25B <st1:address w:st="on"><st1:street w:st="on">Elliott Road</st1:street>, <st1:city w:st="on">Bournemouth</st1:city>,
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[mailto:cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk] <b><span style="font-weight:
bold">On Behalf Of </span></b>Ian Hickling<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> 13 October 2011 11:22 PM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> <a href="mailto:clive.glover@lineone.net">clive.glover@lineone.net</a>;
Jaqui Devereux<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Cc:</span></b> cma-l<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> [cma-l] DCMS consultation
meetings on amendments to community radio law<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<div><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma"> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma">Clive<br>
At the risk of being guilty of perpetual repetition, can I take you up on one
point:<br>
<br>
<em><i><font face="Tahoma"><span style="font-family:Tahoma">The restrictions on
transmitter power to 50 watts and the "5km" radius for CR stations
are unnecessarily restrictive. Stations should be able to make the case for
covering a defined local community area and the transmitter power to do this
should be agreed as a technical/engineering matter with OFCOM engineers.
However, defining the whole of London or Manchester etc as your community would
be taking it too far!</span></font></i></em><i><span style="font-style:italic"><br>
</span></i><br>
There never has been that hypothetical 50W/5km <em><b><i><font face="Tahoma"><span style="font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold">restriction</span></font></i></b></em>.<br>
It's a <em><b><i><font face="Tahoma"><span style="font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:
bold">guideline</span></font></i></b></em>.<br>
<br>
It has always been the situation that ".......<em><i><font face="Tahoma"><span style="font-family:Tahoma">stations should be able to make
the case for covering a defined local community area and the transmitter power
to do this should be agreed as a technical/engineering matter ......</span></font></i></em><br>
It's a distinct section of the Application document.<br>
<br>
In simple terms, Ofcom says "Tell us the Community you wish to cover - and
how you propose doing it.<br>
If you look on Ofcom's published "TX Params", you'll see the stations
that have asked for and got much higher powers and sites.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma">------------------------------------<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><b><font size="2" color="#262626" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:#262626;
font-weight:bold">Ian Hickling<br>
</span></font></b><b><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold">Partner</span></font></b><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma"><o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><b><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold">transplan <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">UK</st1:place></st1:country-region><o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;
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<div><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma">> From: <a href="mailto:clive.glover@lineone.net">clive.glover@lineone.net</a><br>
> Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 18:19:54 +0100<br>
> To: <a href="mailto:jaqui.devereux@commedia.org.uk">jaqui.devereux@commedia.org.uk</a><br>
> CC: <a href="mailto:cma-l@commedia.org.uk">cma-l@commedia.org.uk</a><br>
> Subject: Re: [cma-l] DCMS consultation meetings on amendments to community
radio law<br>
> <br>
> Jaqui<br>
> <br>
> Obviously the rules limiting or prohibiting advertising on some stations
should be removed. They were intended to limit competition for local commercial
stations and I doubt this Government would want to be seen to be limiting
competition!<br>
> <br>
> The rules preventing CR stations being licenced in areas where there are
existing commercial stations (but not the other way round) are inequitable and
should be removed.<br>
> <br>
> The 50% commercial income rule causes us no problems, nor many other stations
and has the advantage of showing a clear distinction between commercial and
community stations. The ability to offset real commercial income against a
notional value for volunteer time means that this should not create problems
for the majority of CR stations, although I accept it may for a few.<br>
> <br>
> The restrictions on transmitter power to 50 watts and the "5km"
radius for CR stations are unnecessarily restrictive. Stations should be able
to make the case for covering a defined local community area and the
transmitter power to do this should be agreed as a technical/engineering matter
with OFCOM engineers. However, defining the whole of <st1:city w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">London</st1:place></st1:city> or Manchester etc as your community
would be taking it too far!<br>
> <br>
> Hope this helps!<br>
> <br>
> regards,<br>
> <br>
> Clive<br>
> On 13 Oct 2011, at 13:51, Jaqui Devereux wrote:<br>
> <br>
> > Dear all<br>
> > <br>
> > The DCMS will be co-hosting a couple of meetings with us, probably in<br>
> > the New Year, to discuss possible amendments to the law on community<br>
> > radio, as part of the new Communications Bill.<br>
> > <br>
> > We are writing to ask your views on what the agenda should cover - we<br>
> > do have quite a few ideas on what you might want but would prefer you<br>
> > to tell us!<br>
> > <br>
> > Almost certainly community radio advertising rules (all of them) will<br>
> > be on the agenda, but what other subjects would you like on it?<br>
> > <br>
> > Please do let us know,<br>
> > <br>
> > Best wishes<br>
> > <br>
> > Jaqui<br>
> > <br>
> > -- <br>
> > Jaqui Devereux<br>
> > Director, Community Media Association<br>
> > Community Media Association<br>
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