[cma-l] charity status

Sat Feb 5 14:14:09 GMT 2011

Good lad Eddie ! ....... I think you could possibly right on this one, it is
exactly what I was thinking.

By the way .. ME !           Sounding off !                       Never !
er ??  well ??    possibly you're right !?

Take away the professional bumphffffff ----   and the lawers literature, I
would say that we're very charitable,    

1)       We haven't got two 'ape-nees' to scratch our arses with!

2)       We're as poor as a Church mouse!

3)       Everything we do, we do it for nowt'!

4)       We make no profit at all!

5)       And we deliver projects and ventures to young people, excluded
youngsters, elderly people, people with disabilities - etc ------ and if
we've got no money, we do it voluntariliy ........ now unless the Lawyers,
Solicitors, Charity commision big wigs, Government ministers etc think that
this doesn't warrant 'A Charity' or 'Charitable' .... then I'm out of ideas
I'm afraid???? .......... however, being the sceptic that I am (never used
to be untill I got involved with CR)  I would imagine that someone somewhere
is looking at this situation from the complete wrong end/other end of the
drain-spout !

Nevermind though guys, we should be used to it by now.

Regards

Nick ......... I think we'll give it another go anyway.

Oh by the way ..... the saga with the local College ...... there is closure,
the lady got back to me. She had no alternative actually, I'd backed her
into a corner .. the real reasons as to why they do nothing with us and
furthermore give us nowt' are as follows:-

1) The college media courses only incorporate artistic design, magazine
prep', reporting ...... the journalism doesn't stretch anywhere near enough
to 'radio' .. however, this is actually a contradiction of our original
approach .... And I think they have completely missed the point !?
we were saying ''yes, we understand this'' ''but'' ''we can provide this for
you'' ....... it appears yet again that it has gone straight over the top of
their heads ?!

2) Furthermore (AND MOST IMPORTANTLY)          refer back to my sounding
offs ..... PERCEPTION is an issue ...... The exact wording that was used was
that the local commercial station has a 'substantial listenership' and they
choose to spend their money where it is most effective .......... ER ?
actually    WRONG !                      the commercial radio listenership
considering that they have been around for 15 years is bloody dreadful, and,
the perception that no one listens to us is NOT correct ..... !

However, as I have said ......... We can no longer sustain donors and
sponsors because their patience has run out and we can't offer them anymore
. (restrictions etc)      THIS IS NOW A FACT !                PROVEN BY US
(CCR) !                 secondly .... We have lost lots of listeners BACK to
the commercial cowboys due to the FACT that people can't hear us !
having to stand holding up a coathanger on top of the wardrobe in the back
bedroom or nipping outside to shed in -6 temperatures isn't exactly
everyones cup o' tea regarding radio listening.            25 watts in a
hilly area is not ideal ...... PROVEN ONCE AGAIN BY US !

Anyway, enough sounding off again, back to the drawing board we go .... but
the FACT remains that the longer it trawls on, the nearer to the abyss we
go.

Jeremy Hunt (er Nero) stands fiddling whilst (Rome) = (Community Radio
burns) ...... how's his Community TV going by the way ??    does anyone know
??    in all these cutbacks from the government I find it quite bizarre that
we've got a Minister who is trying to run before he's walking ... In fact as
community radio goes, he ain't even walking . he's shuffling.

Bye for now                        LOL

  _____  

From: Eddie Stuart [mailto:eddie at kcr.fm] 
Sent: 04 February 2011 23:50
To: Office - ccr-fm
Cc: 'CMA-L'
Subject: Re: [cma-l] charity status

Biggest single problem that I'm aware of is that as far as I know, *ALL* of
your operation has to be charitable.

Anything non-charitable (ie probably remotely commercial) and you won't
qualify.

I have seen many organisations split into 2 in order to make one "wholly
charitable" despite the higher admin costs.

As ever (and I'm going to sound like Nick sounding off here, but nowt wrong
with that!) the lawyers and accountants will make a few bob in setting it
all up and we'll be swamped in paperwork......

(FWIW, I qualified as a Chartered A/Cin 1996..... doesn't mean that I like
all of them!!)

Cheers,

Eddie

KCR is the operating name of Keith Community Radio Ltd - The Friendly Sound
Broadcasting to the whole of Moray & beyond on 102.8FM
and to the World at http://kcr.fm

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Registered in Scotland No.SC173805
Registered Office: 59a Land Street, Keith, Banffshire, AB55 5AN

On 04/02/2011 18:16, Office - ccr-fm wrote: 

Dear All

Just a quick enquiry ....... Does anyone know how many Community Radio
Stations in our fraturnity/brotherhood are actually charities ??     I know
that we looked into it 7 years ago but the process was a complete nightmare.
Also, in 2004 I clearly remember that the Charities commision simply had NO
category for radio ... it was almost as if they didn't understand it >?>?
I think the key to it and the crux of the matter was that we were
technically ''all over the place'' in what we were providing ... in
otherwords, providing a lot, but nothing specific !
almost          ''a jack of all trades but master of none''

Have any of you guys had a similar experience ?                       I seem
to recall that there is a station on the south coast as a charity ??
plus         Regen (near to us) in South Manchester who do run Wythenshawe
FM and ALL FM ...... outside of that, I'm a bit clueless to be honest ...
Any ideas ?

What about Sheffield and of course the CMA ?

Many thanks

Regards

Nick

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