[cma-l] FW: Local News Partnership - deadline extended

Tue May 30 17:46:02 BST 2017

Good points Nick.

And we have raised them.

The CMA is concerned that the Local Democracy Reporters Scheme appears to
favour text-based local news media organisations - that is to say, the
traditional local print sector. This might constitute unfair competition
for other local media organisations, in so far as the agreed
BBC/NMA criteria appear to be slanted towards NMA (News Media Association)
members and the type of content that they produce. If the purpose of the
Local News Partnership scheme is to strengthen local democracy reporting
then a focus on audio and video interviews of councillors and public
officials, for example, might deliver wider public value.

And the reason given, so far, that the BBC content may not be broadcast by
local television and radio stations (commercial and community) is in order
to preserve local news plurality.

We have put forward that if the purpose of the Local News Partnership
scheme is to strengthen local democracy reporting then the provision of
audio and video interviews of councillors and public officials, for
example, would probably deliver wider public value.

Best regards

Bill
-- 
Community Media Association
http://www.commedia.org.uk
https://twitter.com/community_media
https://facebook.com/CommunityMediaAssociation

On 30 May 2017 at 15:30, Canalside's Thread events guide for NE Cheshire <
office at thethread.org.uk> wrote:

> Dear All
>
>
>
> The problems I have regarding this are three fold :-
>
>
>
> The first one being the classic again that it appears as if I’m some
> Rottweiler spoiling for a fight. Anything but, I am merely asking the
> questions that most are thinking as I believe mixed messages are being sent
> out. It has become a mixed message because I have one thing in my head
> which I believe could be the correct one, and the process appears to be
> going off down a different road whilst at the same time attempting to
> hoodwink people. Sounds familiar ?
>
>
>
> There is a lot of meat on the bone on this statement :-
>
>
>
> There is no restriction on community radio using the audio from this
> project on their website, with the addition of locally written (by you)
> words and pictures. That providing certain conditions and standards are met
> by the community station.
>
> The central point, is that the audio from this project cannot be broadcast
> by the station
>
>
>
> Firstly, if a Radio Station can’t broadcast the News content then I
> struggle to see where the improvement of the overall service is ?
> Newspapers for example have the Paper and the Website. This is where people
> will go for the News. People ‘listen out’ for the News on the Radio
> ie:- Internet broadcast and/or FM      it is what differenciates us from
> Print and News Hubs and News Websites.
>
> If it is locally written by us from the new source, nothing has been
> gained apart from the fact that there just ‘’’might’’’ be a bit more of it
> available (but this is wishy washy at the moment)
> ‘’Certain conditions and Standards are met’’
> ?????                   I don’t understand this statement at all  ??
>
>
>
> The reason I don’t understand it is because it contradicts what we are
> trying to achieve. We here at Third Fiddle FM for example don’t need to
> look at our standards, conditions, qualifications, Degrees, A Levels, O
> Levels, Spirit Levels because ‘’’expert Journalists’’’ will have reported
> on the News and then Recorded the audio …. We merely play it out. So, if
> there is a fall in standards, it would be at source and not in this Office.
>
>
>
> The latter bit says       [ central point, the audio can’t be broadcast by
> the station ]                   the word ‘pointless’ springs to mind.
>
>
>
> In a nutshell, if people want to view news, they ain’t going to come to us
> first, they will seek the local News websites, maybe the local BBC website,
> maybe even the local Commercial Station website ---- in this area we are
> bottom of the pile, and dare I say understandably so. Therefore, making
> this new project FULLY AVAILABLE to all, improves quality, accountability,
> reach … which I thought were what the exercise was about ?            or is
> it about something else ?
>
>
>
> I will elaborate further once I have received a reply from our experts on
> this side of the fence and experts from the BBC News Hub who have been
> asked the same questions.
>
>
>
> I personally think there is going to be exclusion, it’s just that it will
> be dressed up to make it look like it has all been done fairly and correct.
> Unfortunately one thing that folk seem to have forgotten is that most
> people on this side of fence pay a licence fee and some of that 8 Million
> is our money. That makes things slightly different.
>
>
>
> I repeat, I am not spoiling for a fight, I never have, I just want a level
> playing surface. I think this is a big showpiece on the way forward, if
> there is a way forward.
>
>
>
> Has anybody at all thought to ask the question     Why can’t the
> Professional content be broadcast ??      I have, I haven’t had an answer
> yet ?
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>
>
> I want people to chill my concerns or even prove me wrong (please do)   if
> not, we could be heading for yet another ‘’well I told you so’’
>
>
>
> Nick HD
>
>
>
> *From:* cma-l-bounces at mailman.commedia.org.uk [mailto:
> cma-l-bounces at mailman.commedia.org.uk] *On Behalf Of *tlr at gairloch.co.uk
> *Sent:* 26 May 2017 10:38
> *To:* The Community Media Association Discussion List <
> cma-l at mailman.commedia.org.uk>
> *Subject:* Re: [cma-l] Local News Partnership - deadline extended
>
>
>
> For those working to beat the tight deadline on the Invitation to tender,
> note that the BBC has just extended it by 3 days:
>
> "Dear bidders - the BBC has had a number of representations from
> organisations requesting a short deadline extension. In light of this, the
> application deadline will be extended to midnight on Monday 29 May 2017.
> Many thanks, Ede"
>
> So you have the weekend to finalize things!
>
> Alex
>
> On 25 May 2017 at 13:17 "Alex Gray, Two Lochs Radio" <tlr at gairloch.co.uk>
> wrote:
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> Hi
>
>
>
> Thanks, that confirms what I said, as per my original posting. I saw no
> reference by the BBC to a prohibition on CR stations taking part, and don’t
> know where Canalside got that from.
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>
>
> The BBC can’t speak for Ofcom, of course, whose agreement is usually
> needed for ‘out of area’ production.
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>
> Alex
>
>
>
> *From:* cma-l-bounces at mailman.commedia.org.uk [
> mailto:cma-l-bounces at mailman.commedia.org.uk
> <cma-l-bounces at mailman.commedia.org.uk>] *On Behalf Of *Eden FM Radio
> *Sent:* 25 May 2017 12:23
> *To:* The Community Media Association Discussion List <
> cma-l at mailman.commedia.org.uk>
> *Subject:* Re: [cma-l] Local News Partnership
>
>
>
> Hi Alex
>
> There is no restriction on community radio using the audio from this
> project on their website, with the addition of locally written (by you)
> words and pictures. That providing certain conditions and standards are met
> by the community station.
>
> The central point, is that the audio from this project cannot be broadcast
> by the station.
>
>
>
> Also, this project does not affect any arrangements in place between BBC
> local and community statoons who have entered in to any sharing
> arrangement, as set up by Commedia.
>
> The above is a precise of an email we received from the BBC following some
> questions on the project.
>
> -Nigel-
>
>
> Eden FM Radio Ltd
> Office : 01768 899 101
> Studio: 01768 899 107
> Web: www.edenfm.co.uk
> Twitter: @EdenFmRadio
> Facebook : @edenfmonline
> Mostyn Hall, Friargate, Penrith CA11 7XP
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> *From:* Alex Gray, Two Lochs Radio <tlr at gairloch.co.uk>
>
> *To:* office at thethread.org.uk ; 'The Community Media Association
> Discussion List' <cma-l at mailman.commedia.org.uk>
>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 23, 2017 4:56 PM
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> *Subject:* Re: [cma-l] Local News Partnership
>
>
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> I put our application in at the weekend. While doing it, I didn’t see any
> restriction against Community Radio stations, indeed I didn’t see Community
> Radio referred to at all, only “local media”, and “local news
> organisations”. But as I said, I think stations would need Ofcom consent to
> use the BBC content.
>
>
>
> The notes say:
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> “The partnership includes:
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> …A *Shared Data Unit* that will share data journalism with news
> organisations across the media industry and will be staffed by reporters
> from local news providers and the BBC.”
>
>
>
> “Any local news provider wanting to receive content from the Shared Data
> Unit, the local Democracy Reporter or the News Hub must meet the
> journalistic standards laid out in Section 1 of the Eligibility Criteria. Guidance
> notes
> <http://downloads.bbc.co.uk/aboutthebbc/insidethebbc/howwework/partnerships/bbclocalnewspartnerships_guidancenotesv2.pdf>for
> applications are available here
> <http://downloads.bbc.co.uk/aboutthebbc/insidethebbc/howwework/partnerships/bbclocalnewspartnerships_guidancenotesv2.pdf>.
> Apply online via the BBC Procurement website
> <https://bbc.bravosolution.co.uk/web/login.html>.”
>
>
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> It defines local news organisations as:
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> …those individuals, companies or groups
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> ·       whose intended audience is typically located in a specific
> geographical area which is smaller than a single Nation of the UK (ie
> smaller than Scotland)
>
> ·       who generate and distribute their own news content
>
> ·       whose journalistic output covers a broad range of topical
> subjects, but in particular local government and democratic institutions
> News providers whose target audience is a community of interest (e.g.
> supporters of a sports team) or whose editorial is local but focussed on a
> community of interest
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> (NB BBC’s mis-spelling of ‘focused’!)
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> I guess not all community stations generate their own news, so that might
> be a hurdle, as might this be:
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>
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> Applicants are also required to certify that they meet these minimum
> standards:
>
> ·       Does your local news organisation(s) provide a consistent level
> of contemporaneous coverage of all aspects of public institutions,
> organisations and civic life, including councils and public bodies?
>
> ·       Does your local news organisation(s) meet and maintain high
> journalistic standards?
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>
>
> Alex
>
>
>
> *From:* cma-l-bounces at mailman.commedia.org.uk [
> mailto:cma-l-bounces at mailman.commedia.org.uk
> <cma-l-bounces at mailman.commedia.org.uk>] *On Behalf Of *Canalside's
> Thread events guide for NE Cheshire
> *Sent:* 22 May 2017 20:48
> *To:* 'The Community Media Association Discussion List' <
> cma-l at mailman.commedia.org.uk>
> *Subject:* Re: [cma-l] Local News Partnership
>
>
>
> From what I understood from the outset was there was a local News hub in
> various areas around the Country. Media be them Commercial / Community
> whatever could access it           ie:- passworded    like traffic reports
> or news services which are paid for ……. As I saw it someone somewhere shut
> the door on us accessing before Chrimbo  (October / November I seem to
> recall. Is this correct is the question ?
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