[cma-l] Sky/Fox Radio News

Mon Mar 20 13:20:11 GMT 2017

I think I deleted the earlier thread but, for what it's worth, Spitfire
takes Radio NewsHub's content, it includes news/weather and upload direct
to your chosen Dropbox/FTP location yet costs about £10 a month. I'm quite
happy with it and it leaves the stationresources free to concentrate on
local content/news items/event coverage.

Thank you,
Catie Lake
Spitfire Radio

On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 9:43 AM, Canalside's The Thread <
office at thethread.org.uk> wrote:

> Spot on James           ‘’Hear Hear’’
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> Of course our service might/could be a touch rough around the edges at
> times, but it’s Community Radio and we are here to let rookies and newbies
> have a dabble ….. we’re a training ground. I’m not suggesting we run a
> heathrobinson service or make a complete Horlicks of it we just need to
> apply a bit of common sense.
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> This could be done providing we have the will and we get on with it.
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> We need the Green Light from the top table and then support from the
> Stations + PLUS A PANEL TO DECIDE WHICH Station / Hub can provide a worthy
> service
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> Onwards and Upwards I say
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> 😊
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> NHD
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> *From:* James Cridland [mailto:james at cridland.net]
> *Sent:* 19 March 2017 10:11
> *To:* office at thethread.org.uk; The Community Media Association Discussion
> List <cma-l at mailman.commedia.org.uk>
> *Subject:* Re: [cma-l] Sky/Fox Radio News
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> Ian says:
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> "Ofcom's predilection appears to be whether the move will affect plurality
> of news sources. The blatantly obvious answer would appear to be that it
> will."
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> I don't understand why you'd say that, since I've given you every reason
> that it makes no difference whatsoever. Literally nothing will change apart
> from shareholding (but not control) of a company. Nothing. At all.
> Blatantly nothing.
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> Nick H Dumpty's idea is not a bad one. In Australia, the CBAA runs a news
> service (with a Sydney university) and delivers it via satellite. It is a
> professional-sounding service that gives a great start to young news
> journalists. That then means there's a satellite feed for a sustaining
> service of community programmes as well, which many stations take. Stations
> pay for this service as part of their CBAA membership fee.
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> //j
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> On Sat, 18 Mar 2017 at 13:19 Canalside's The Thread <
> office at thethread.org.uk> wrote:
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> I go back to my original suggestion ……….. I think it’s another one of my
> pool of suggestions that either get laughed at or ignored (but alas) I feel
> I am the one speaking the sense (but that’s all down to opinions I suppose)
> just perhaps one day (we can live in hope)    someone might grasp the
> nettle, wake up and smell the Coffee and take the Bull by the Horns.
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> We provide ourselves with a National news service which comes from a Hub
> ….. that could be Sheffield or it could be The Eye or Somer Valley or Bay
> or even Canalside wherever and/or    whoever feels they can deliver the
> best and we choose. Everyobody pays a subscription £200 quid a year or £250
> quid a year which is still cheaper than other news services …. We run a
> three minute bulletin on the hour  from say 6am till 10pm. I fully accept
> that not everyone would take it up as some minority Stations have different
> news ….. but I reckon around 200 maybe ??          that would bring in
> about £45,000 odd grand ……… we could have a double shift swapping News
> team    2 x £14,000 grand and the rest goes in the Pot for the CMA.
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> I’ll suggest it again in 3 Years time no doubt ……..in the meantime I’ll
> tootle off and go and p e e in the wind again
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> Regards
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> Nick H Dumpty          keep smiling kids   😊     onwards and upwards
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> *From:* cma-l-bounces at mailman.commedia.org.uk [mailto:
> cma-l-bounces at mailman.commedia.org.uk] *On Behalf Of *Richard Berry
> *Sent:* 18 March 2017 11:08
> *To:* The Community Media Association Discussion List <
> cma-l at mailman.commedia.org.uk>
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> *Subject:* Re: [cma-l] Sky/Fox Radio News
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> A few things on this. This is not a huge change in terms of who is making
> the news, and I can’t see IRN turning into Fox news overnight. For one
> thing the rules around bias and impartiality will apply, whilst they would
> not impact on SRN/IRN if there were to be an issue, they are contractually
> required to supply a compliant service to their clients (ie us). I seem to
> recall that when this came round last time it was suggested that Sky news
> could be placed in an independent arms-length trust to ensure that there
> was cross contamination from the newspaper business. This may well come
> round again. Of course, as IRN is effectively owned by the commercial radio
> companies, although News Corp own around 4% via their ownership of Wireless
> Group. So, in effect the owners could move the licence to whoever they want
> when it comes up for renewal.
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> Best wishes
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> Richard
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> *From:* cma-l-bounces at mailman.commedia.org.uk [
> mailto:cma-l-bounces at mailman.commedia.org.uk
> <cma-l-bounces at mailman.commedia.org.uk>] *On Behalf Of *Ian Hickling
> *Sent:* 18 March 2017 08:01
> *To:* The Community Media Association Discussion List
> *Subject:* Re: [cma-l] Sky/Fox Radio News
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> Ofcom's predilection appears to be whether the move will affect plurality
> of news sources.
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> The blatantly obvious answer would appear to be that it will.
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> Ian Hickling
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> *From:* cma-l-bounces at mailman.commedia.org.uk <cma-l-bounces at mailman.
> commedia.org.uk> on behalf of Rhys Phillips (Radio Cardiff) <
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> *Sent:* 17 March 2017 20:30:33
> *To:* The Community Media Association Discussion List
> *Subject:* Re: [cma-l] Sky/Fox Radio News
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> It's also not true that all stations are either BBC or Sky. Global do
> their own news, Jazz FM does it's own on breakfast, a bunch use Radio News
> Hub etc.
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> On Fri, Mar 17, 2017 at 5:22 PM Clive Glover <clive.glover at lineone.net>
> wrote:
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> Bob
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> Very good point!
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> I think it is not quite so clear cut though. Strictly we are using IRN
> which has been contracted out to Sky News so editorial policy should still
> be dictated by IRN (although to be fair Sky News is pretty well balanced -
> as much as ITN for example).
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> However if it was a case of Fox News taking over that would definitely be
> an issue!
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> We should probably all take the opportunity to comment to OFCOM about this
> so they may add in a condition relating to the independence of
> national/local radio news services.
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> Clive Glover
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> On 17 Mar 2017, at 16:07, Bob Tyler wrote:
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> The recent announcement regarding the proposed take over of Sky by Fox,
>  I believe has some implications for radio in the UK.
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> Should this go ahead the news on UK radio would come from just two
> sources; The BBC and the Murdoch owned SKY News (radio).
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> Ofcom has today published a guidance note
> <http://ofcom.createsend1.com/t/i-l-uiikhrt-ptyutuhh-h/> setting out the
> process and timetable for preparing our report on the public interest
> considerations set out by the Secretary of State. Ofcom has also published
> an invitation to comment
> <http://ofcom.createsend1.com/t/i-l-uiikhrt-ptyutuhh-k/> and invites
> written submissions to be sent to Publicinteresttest2017 at ofcom.org.u
> <http://mailto:Publicinteresttest2017@ofcom.org.u/>k  by *30 March 2017*.
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> The regulator has also invited comments invited comments under its fit and
> proper duty.
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>  Under s.3(3) of each of the Broadcasting Act 1990 and the Broadcasting
> Act 1996, Ofcom has an ongoing duty to be satisfied that the holders of
> broadcast licences are fit and proper to be licensed. This means that we
> can assess a licensee at any time, on our own initiative, as well as being
> able to respond to concerns raised by third parties.  We have powers to
> require from licensees any information that we consider appropriate to
> conduct that assessment.
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> If you wish to submit relevant evidence to us in relation to Ofcom’s fit
> and proper assessment, please do so by *30 March 2017* using this email
> address: fitandproper at ofcom.org.uk
> <http://mailto:fitandproper@ofcom.org.uk/>
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> Please take a look.
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> Bob
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