[cma-l] Licensing and VAT

Thu Jan 5 13:21:15 GMT 2017

I have no argument with the principle of paying for value derived from other
people's work. My complaint is that I believe the rate is set too high for
the smallest stations, and the application of excessive minimum fees makes
the effective rate even higher for the smallest stations. This situation has
been allowed to arise largely because of the monopolistic position of our
collecting societies, and the lack of effective provisions to protect
small-scale music users.

If there were a level playing field or effective market mechanism for
negotiating these rates things might be different, but there is no realistic
negotiating mechanism open to the smallest players in the field (the
not-for-profit, socially-motivated sector). 

I note in the US the model for non-profit stations seems much fairer. The US
has imposed consent decrees on the two biggest collecting societies to push
them to compete for licences and offer them fair terms. One of the two main
US copyright bodies, ASCAP, offers a simple licence for low power stations
that provides flat fees based on station wattage. The licence fee for 50W
stations is $232, with no percentage royalties. So a broadly equivalent US
body would charge most stations in our community sector about a sixth of
PRSfM's current minimum fee!

For non-profit stations over 100W, such as the one I look after, ASCAP fees
are based on the station's population count, programming format and the
level of use of music. The stations are not required to sign an agreement
and the rates are set by a federal Copyright Royalty Board. Those fees too
are considerably lower than PPL/PRSfM rates.

Alex

From: cma-l-bounces at mailman.commedia.org.uk
[mailto:cma-l-bounces at mailman.commedia.org.uk] On Behalf Of Bob Tyler
Sent: 04 January 2017 21:37
To: cma-l at mailman.commedia.org.uk
Subject: Re: [cma-l] Licensing and VAT

Why do people keep going on about music copyrights?

If you want to exploit people's work to promote your business and earn
revenues,  then you need to pay for that usage.

If you don't want to pay, then do not use any music.  It's simple.

BT

On 4 Jan 2017, at 18:15, Eddie Stuart <eddie at kcr.fm <mailto:eddie at kcr.fm> >
wrote:

Nick,

I hate to tell you this, but when you open up your taxi business, Ford will
tear up your guarantees :-)

A friend of mine runs a taxi business and discovered this the hard way......
Went to Court and lost.....

Eddie

KCR broadcasts across Moray and beyond on 107.7FM
and to the world on the internet at  <http://kcr.fm/> http://kcr.fm
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KCR is the operating name of Keith Community Radio Ltd.
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On 04/01/17 13:55, Canalside's The Thread wrote:

If I buy a Ford Car next week and decide to open up a Taxi business, Ford
don't charge me each time I drive it . I buy it and then I own it. If I earn
money (as in this Taxi case .. so what ?)   do I have to report to Ford
every year on how much I have earned so that they can charge me 3% of it ...

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