[cma-l] cma-l Digest, Vol 94, Issue 25

Mon Feb 20 08:45:42 GMT 2017

Good advice from Miles!   Also, unless you are lucky enough to have a wav
file library, use a lossless editor otherwise you will lose quality if you
use a standard editor like Audition or Audacity. There are several
available, I use mp3DirectCut.  This one has a batch mode so it's good for
top and tailing silence off your entire library.

Glyn

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On 20 February 2017 at 07:46, Miles Shrimpton <miles at funky.sx> wrote:

> Hi Rhys
>
> We are a station playing dance and urban - we have a strictly no swearing
> policy even out of hours late at night - it seems such a 'grey' area still.
> Our grime shows are radio edited and also run a warning message at the
> start regarding offensive content - just incase we missed a word in editing
> a 2 hour show!
>
> If in doubt cut it out - until of course we know for sure what the rules
> are :)
>
> Regards
> Miles
> Funky SX 103.7FM
>
>
>
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> >      (Rhys Phillips (Radio Cardiff))
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> > Message: 1
> > Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2017 16:32:27 +0000
> > From: "Rhys Phillips (Radio Cardiff)" <rhys.phillips at radiocardiff.org>
> > To: The Community Media Association Discussion List
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> > Subject: Re: [cma-l] Attn: Urban stations.... language?
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> > No we don't know "the answer". My question wasn't "what is allowed by
> > Ofcom?". My question was "what do other urban stations do?".
> >
> > We, as an urban music station want to make a decision on this (we've
> > allowed bad language late at night up until now) and if we are going to
> > change it, we want to know what other similar stations are doing to help
> us
> > benchmark where we sit.
> >
> >> On Sun, Feb 19, 2017 at 4:17 PM Neil Munday <neilm at susyradio.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> There you go you know the answer!
> >> But with the code of offensive words and sayings having just been
> revised
> >> and most teenagers ( children) being up to the small hours when is a
> good
> >> time to put this type of music in the playlist?
> >>
> >> Neil
> >>
> >> On Sun, 19 Feb 2017 at 15:58, Rhys Phillips (Radio Cardiff) <
> >> rhys.phillips at radiocardiff.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> That is just factually incorrect Neil. Ofcom guidance clearly states:
> >>
> >> "Ofcom recognises that music is a fundamental component of radio
> >> programming. In addition, we recognise that there is a tradition of
> certain
> >> genres of music including potentially offensive lyrics in songs. In line
> >> with the broadcaster?s right to freedom of expression and the audience?s
> >> right to receive information and ideas, it is important that
> broadcasters
> >> have the editorial freedom to broadcast potentially offensive content,
> >> provided it complies with the Code."
> >>
> >> The only thing the code says is that it shouldn't go out at times when
> >> children are likely to be listening.
> >>
> >> Therefore it's down to the station to decide if they want it to be part
> of
> >> their sound / is it what their audience want to hear.
> >>
> >> Hence my question to other urban stations who are likely to have a
> similar
> >> audience to us.
> >>
> >> On Sun, Feb 19, 2017 at 3:32 PM Neil Munday <neilm at susyradio.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> It's simple there's the Ofcom code for FM/AM/DAB broadcasters. There is
> no
> >> watershed on radio (at the moment) therefore the answer is No you can't
> >> play any. But you as a broadcaster and or a presenter should already
> know
> >> that that has been key to broadcasting in the U.K as far back as I can
> >> remember.
> >>
> >> Neil
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sun, 19 Feb 2017 at 15:21, Rhys Phillips (Radio Cardiff) <
> >> rhys.phillips at radiocardiff.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >> I'm interested in hearing what policies urban music stations put in
> place
> >> for bad language in songs.
> >>
> >> E.g. for hip hop music, over half the genre includes offensive language
> >> and if you're an urban station with specialist (late night) hip hop
> shows,
> >> do you allow this music to be played? Or do you insist on only clean
> stuff
> >> going out?
> >>
> >> Rhys
> >>
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> > Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2017 17:04:26 +0000
> > From: David Sharp <dave.sharp at academyfmfolkestone.com>
> > To: The Community Media Association Discussion List
> >    <cma-l at mailman.commedia.org.uk>
> > Subject: Re: [cma-l] Attn: Urban stations.... language?
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> > Hi
> >
> > Over the years we have hosted a number of shows with this type of
> content including urban music, metal, hip-hop, and house music containing
> offensive vocal samples. We have an added complication that we are based in
> a school, and therefore are arguably more likely to have young people
> listening.... and also teenage listeners who want to hear some of the more
> edgy music.
> >
> > Broadly speaking, our approach is:
> >
> > We have a presenter handbook that all presenters read and sign, giving
> guidance on what is possible and what's not. One important thing I try to
> get them to understand though, is that they should always check songs and
> always ask me for guidance.
> >
> > I recommend you have a policy and stick to it, even if you have to be
> harsh. I have unfortunately had to dismiss volunteers for not checking
> songs and broadcasting some unsuitable songs. This sends out a strong
> message that we take the issue seriously.
> >
> > No bad language at all before 9pm.
> >
> > Shows after 9pm that contain bad language include language-warning
> messages twice an hour. Regarding the nature of the language.... I don't
> mind a s**t or two before 10pm. It's only after 11pm that I'd be OK with
> stronger language, and even then there would be language-warnings, and I
> would have to trust the presenter to communicate with me.
> >
> > I am sure some have slipped though the net - I can't listen 24/7. But if
> you have a process in place, and made the presenter sign the Handbook, then
> I assume Ofcom is going to treat any complaint more leniantly. I would be
> interested to hear of anyone with actual experience of dealing with Ofcom
> regarding this.
> >
> > It's not just about swearing. There are hip-hop songs out there with no
> swear words, but still discuss blowing people away with automatic weapons,
> and 'hoes' (not the gardening type). Presenters need to know this is also
> potentially offensive.
> >
> > All presenters are briefed that if one 'slips through the net' then they
> apologise immediately. This is then followed by a discussion where I
> explain that it should not be a net, but a bag ;-)
> >
> > The question we always get to is 'what is offensive and what is not'.
> This can only be decided by the management of an individual station,
> knowing their Target Audience, show times, how easily offended the
> listeners are, and procedure for language-warnings and perhaps a list of
> 'banned' words. This is best illustrated by Radio 3, which has some of the
> most prudish listeners in the day yet gets away with broadcasting some
> properly filthy stuff occasinoally in the evenings, all appropriately
> flagged.
> >
> > I think it should be applauded that Community stations broadcast
> challenging shows. I believe the BBC has a published list of (researched)
> relative offence given by specific words - I know it's the BBC and they are
> governed in a different way, but it makes interesting reading....I can't
> find the link ATM but perhaps someone else has it.
> >
> >
> > Dave
> > --
> > Dave Sharp
> > Station Manager
> > 105.9 Academy FM Folkestone
> > Mobile: 07811 407635
> > Folkestone office: 01303 721059 (Ext.4)
> > Internal Folkestone Academy: x2499
> > dave.sharp at academyfmfolkestone.com<mailto:dave.sharp@
> academyfmfolkestone.com>
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: cma-l-bounces at mailman.commedia.org.uk <cma-l-bounces at mailman.
> commedia.org.uk> on behalf of Neil Munday <neilm at susyradio.com>
> > Sent: 19 February 2017 16:00
> > To: The Community Media Association Discussion List
> > Subject: Re: [cma-l] Attn: Urban stations.... language?
> >
> > There you go you know the answer!
> > But with the code of offensive words and sayings having just been
> revised and most teenagers ( children) being up to the small hours when is
> a good time to put this type of music in the playlist?
> >
> > Neil
> > On Sun, 19 Feb 2017 at 15:58, Rhys Phillips (Radio Cardiff) <
> rhys.phillips at radiocardiff.org<mailto:rhys.phillips at radiocardiff.org>>
> wrote:
> > That is just factually incorrect Neil. Ofcom guidance clearly states:
> >
> > "Ofcom recognises that music is a fundamental component of radio
> programming. In addition, we recognise that there is a tradition of certain
> genres of music including potentially offensive lyrics in songs. In line
> with the broadcaster's right to freedom of expression and the audience's
> right to receive information and ideas, it is important that broadcasters
> have the editorial freedom to broadcast potentially offensive content,
> provided it complies with the Code."
> >
> > The only thing the code says is that it shouldn't go out at times when
> children are likely to be listening.
> >
> > Therefore it's down to the station to decide if they want it to be part
> of their sound / is it what their audience want to hear.
> >
> > Hence my question to other urban stations who are likely to have a
> similar audience to us.
> >
> > On Sun, Feb 19, 2017 at 3:32 PM Neil Munday <neilm at susyradio.com<mailto:
> neilm at susyradio.com>> wrote:
> > It's simple there's the Ofcom code for FM/AM/DAB broadcasters. There is
> no watershed on radio (at the moment) therefore the answer is No you can't
> play any. But you as a broadcaster and or a presenter should already know
> that that has been key to broadcasting in the U.K as far back as I can
> remember.
> >
> > Neil
> >
> >
> > On Sun, 19 Feb 2017 at 15:21, Rhys Phillips (Radio Cardiff) <
> rhys.phillips at radiocardiff.org<mailto:rhys.phillips at radiocardiff.org>>
> wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > I'm interested in hearing what policies urban music stations put in
> place for bad language in songs.
> >
> > E.g. for hip hop music, over half the genre includes offensive language
> and if you're an urban station with specialist (late night) hip hop shows,
> do you allow this music to be played? Or do you insist on only clean stuff
> going out?
> >
> > Rhys
> > _______________________________________________
> >
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