[cma-l] Ofcom Announcement

Fri Apr 28 16:00:43 BST 2017

I think thats more the concept of more new licenses (not extensions).

I think there are some CR who are concerned about more stations and the
possible competition in their areas, radio fund etc.

On 28 April 2017 at 14:39, Bob Tyler <bobtyler at btinternet.com> wrote:

> I note that Ofcom quoted a CMA survey, where less than half of respondents
> did not want more new licences.
>
> So guess 20 new services by 2018/19 and 20 handing back licences!
>
>
>
> BT
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On 28 Apr 2017, at 12:45, Ian Hickling <transplanfm at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> As I've written elsewhere:
>
> This is good - but it's not perfect.
> Several facets are unhelpful - and are not what Ofcom was either advised
> or asked to do.
>
> See this for starters:
> Future licensing of community radio services
> 1.6 Due to the level of demand for licences evidenced by the number of
> expressions of interest we received, we have decided to proceed with a
> further round of analogue community radio licensing.
>
> *Good - but wasn't that an obvious conclusion?*
>
> 1.7 As a result of the consultation feedback, we have decided to invite
> applications before carrying out frequency planning work, with a view to
> speeding up our processes for granting new licences.
>
> *Again - good - but what we have been saying all along*
>
> 1.8 We have therefore decided to proceed to invite applications for new
> community radio services in all the areas for which we have received
> expressions of interest.
>
> A*h - "...in all the areas for which we have received expressions of
> interest...."?*
>
>
>
> * NO!!!  Individuals applied - not "areas"!  Invitations should be issued
> only to those who applied. **This misguided concept of "fairness" is a
> waste of at least three months in the process and is entirely unnecessary.*
>
> 1.9 We will prioritise those locations that do not overlap with an
> existing community radio service, by inviting applications in those areas
> now; and later this year invite applications in the areas where there is at
> least one existing community radio service.
>
>
>
> *Why? Many areas now have more than one CR service because they applied
> and Ofcom agreed. Again this so-called "fairness" policy is actually very
> unfair to Applicants who have already done all the hard work and are
> sitting waiting for the opportunity to apply. **Ofcom is penalising good
> Applicants by making them wait while they open the door to those who have
> not done the work. Invite applications on merit - not on geography.*
>
> 1.10 An invitation to apply for new licences in the first batch of areas
> will be published alongside this statement. An updated application form and
> notes of guidance will be published next Friday, 5 May.
>
> *Ex**cellent - a good forward move - but let's cut out all the delays -
> shall we?*
>
> Believe me - there's lots more!
>
>
> Ian Hickling
>
> Partner
>
> <http://www.transplanuk.com/>
>
> *Office: 016 3557 8435  (07h to 22h GTS)*
>
> *Car: 075 3098 0115 (only responds when driving)*
>
> *6 Horn Street, Compton, NEWBURY, RG20 6QS*
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Ian Hickling <transplanfm at hotmail.com>
> *Sent:* 28 April 2017 11:32
> *To:* office at thethread.org.uk; The Community Media Association Discussion
> List
> *Subject:* Re: [cma-l] FW: Ofcom - tomorrow
>
>
>
> Interesting that Ofcom made an important announcement this morning:
> https://www.ofcom.org.uk/__data/assets/pdf_file/0020/
> 101459/community-radio-future-licensing-technical-policy-statement.pdf
>
> just as the CMA delegation was going in to a meeting to discuss all of
> that - and a few other vital points.
>
>
> Coincidence?
> Or carefully planned strategy?
>
>
> Ian Hickling
>
> Partner
>
> <http://www.transplanuk.com/>
>
> *Office: 016 3557 8435  (07h to 22h GTS)*
>
> *Car: 075 3098 0115 (only responds when driving)*
>
> *6 Horn Street, Compton, NEWBURY, RG20 6QS*
> ------------------------------
> *From:* cma-l-bounces at mailman.commedia.org.uk <cma-l-bounces at mailman.
> commedia.org.uk> on behalf of Canalside's Thread events guide for NE
> Cheshire <office at thethread.org.uk>
> *Sent:* 28 April 2017 11:02:34
> *To:* 'The Community Media Association Discussion List'
> *Subject:* [cma-l] FW: Ofcom - tomorrow
>
>
> Dear People of Great Loveliness
>
> Not forgetting a troop of (few) other Stations who were hoodwinked at the
> outset as to what area they were meant to be covering, mind-boggled with
> jargon, led up the garden path, pecked at by (let’s use James’s phrase)
> childish moronic folk who lobbied to introduce restrictions (which by the
> way DID affect the set up) and still does indirectly affect operation as we
> still have to deal with all the baggage and leftovers from the mess
>     (and I don’t want any so called experts trying to tell me otherwise as
> we [canalside] lived it, breathed it and have the T-Shirt to prove it)
> but alas, we have the Commercials / Experts who we have been told recently
> ‘apparently’     ‘’’want to help us’’’
>
> Actions speak louder than words, so the best thing everyone can do is go
> back to square one, start how we ought to have started and then all the
> angst and frustration gets put to bed, we forgive and forget and move
> on     YES    as a Radio Fraternity, each with our own roles to play.
>
>
>
> Let’s ask the same questions, but wheel in the Man from Del Monte coz ‘’he
> say Yes’’
>
>
>
> Personally, I do not have an issue with metaphorically speaking being
> third fiddle as I am but a mere insect in all of this, in fact I am but a
> mere insect in most things --- however, I take a dim view to being shoved
> to the back of the queue & being third fiddle whilst having our noses
> rubbed in it at the same time.
>
>
>
> Let us have a bit of respect shown to our sector with actions --- not
> words nor more consultations and then we can ALL go to the hob-knobbing
> gatherings on an equal footing.
>
> If the experts and commercials do this, I will be the first person to give
> em a great big kiss and parade them around the streets of London in a sedan
> chair.
>
>
>
> On a positive note ---- yes the experts giving tips and advice and putting
> it out there for us all is very good and it is to be applauded and I thank
> them and respect them for that – but you have to see the wider picture, and
> the wider picture is that unless you/we/they/DCMS/Ofcom/Uncle Tom Cobbley
> sort out the ‘’’politics’’’   implementing the advice ends up the same
> trying to push a 3 ton rock up Ben Nevis.
>
>
>
> Onwards and Upwards ----- monkeee magic & goodwill to all mankind
>
>
>
> Nick H Dumpty - Chairman / UK Crying in the Wilderness Society
>
>
>
> *From:* cma-l-bounces at mailman.commedia.org.uk [
> mailto:cma-l-bounces at mailman.commedia.org.uk
> <cma-l-bounces at mailman.commedia.org.uk>] *On Behalf Of *Bill Best
> *Sent:* 28 April 2017 09:36
> *To:* The Community Media Association Discussion List <
> cma-l at mailman.commedia.org.uk>
> *Subject:* Re: [cma-l] Ofcom - tomorrow
>
>
>
> Ian
>
>
>
> I again draw your attention to Ofcom's consultation "Community radio:
> future licensing and technical policy" published on 28th October 2016:
>
>
>
> 1.4 We anticipate that our current (third) round of licensing will draw to
> a close in late spring 2017, and that licensing of small-scale DAB services
> may not commence before 2018. In the interim, we propose to license more
> analogue services, as well as consider coverage improvements for existing
> services.
>
>
>
> https://www.ofcom.org.uk/consultations-and-statements/
> category-2/cr-future-licensing
>
>
>
> We will be asking for further clarification of Ofcom's deadline and
> insisting that Ofcom publishes its response to the technical consultation
> that Sharon White indicated would be delivered by the end of April.
>
>
>
> Regards
>
>
>
> Bill
>
> --
>
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>
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>
> On 27 April 2017 at 11:34, Ian Hickling <transplanfm at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> Open message to Bill Best:
>
>
>
> Bill - we wish you all the best in your meeting at Ofcom tomorrow.
>
> Don't forget to stress that there are 243 CR broadcasters out here - and
> another 160-plus potential Applicants - that have been waiting for a very
> long tome for news of how Ofcom is going to proceed with serving this
> market - and for at least some results from the 33 Region 10 and 11
> applications.
>
>
>
> Thank you.
>
>
>
> Ian Hickling
>
> Partner
>
> <http://www.transplanuk.com/>
>
> *Office: 016 3557 8435  (07h to 22h GTS)*
>
> *Car: 075 3098 0115 (only responds when driving)*
>
> *6 Horn Street, Compton, NEWBURY, RG20 6QS*
>
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