<div dir="ltr">I think thats more the concept of more new licenses (not extensions).<div><br></div><div>I think there are some CR who are concerned about more stations and the possible competition in their areas, radio fund etc.</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 28 April 2017 at 14:39, Bob Tyler <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:bobtyler@btinternet.com" target="_blank">bobtyler@btinternet.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div>I note that Ofcom quoted a CMA survey, where less than half of respondents did not want more new licences. </div><div id="m_-3411689803968877535AppleMailSignature"><br></div><div id="m_-3411689803968877535AppleMailSignature">So guess 20 new services by 2018/19 and 20 handing back licences!</div><div id="m_-3411689803968877535AppleMailSignature"><br></div><div id="m_-3411689803968877535AppleMailSignature"><br><br>BT </div><div id="m_-3411689803968877535AppleMailSignature"><br></div><div id="m_-3411689803968877535AppleMailSignature"><br></div><div id="m_-3411689803968877535AppleMailSignature"><br></div><div id="m_-3411689803968877535AppleMailSignature">Sent from my iPad</div><div><div class="h5"><div><br>On 28 Apr 2017, at 12:45, Ian Hickling &lt;<a href="mailto:transplanfm@hotmail.com" target="_blank">transplanfm@hotmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>





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<p>As I&#39;ve written elsewhere:<br>
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<span style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(29,33,41);font-size:12px;background-color:rgb(246,247,249)"><span style="font-family:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)">This is good - but
 it&#39;s not perfect.</span><br>
<span style="font-family:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)">Several facets are unhelpful - and are not what Ofcom was either advised or asked to do.</span></span><span style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(29,33,41);font-size:12px;background-color:rgb(246,247,249)"><span style="font-family:inherit"><br>
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<span style="font-family:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)">See this for starters:</span><br>
<span style="font-family:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)">Future licensing of community radio services</span><br>
<span style="font-family:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)">1.6 Due to the level of demand for licences evidenced by the number of expressions of interest we received, we have decided to proceed with a further round
 of analogue community radio licensing.</span><br>
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</i><span style="font-family:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><i>Good - but wasn&#39;t that an obvious conclusion?</i></span><br>
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<span style="font-family:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)">1.7 As a result of the consultation feedback, we have decided to invite applications before carrying out frequency planning work, with a view to speeding
 up our processes for granting new licences.</span><br>
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</i><span style="font-family:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><i>Again - good - but what we have been saying all along</i></span><br>
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<span style="font-family:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)">1.8 We have therefore decided to proceed to invite applications for new community radio services in all the areas for which we have received expressions
 of interest.</span><br>
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<span style="font-family:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)">A<i>h - &quot;...in all the areas for which we have received expressions of interest....&quot;?</i></span><i><br>
<span style="font-family:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)">NO!!! </span><br>
<span style="font-family:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)">Individuals applied - not &quot;areas&quot;! </span><br>
<span style="font-family:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)">Invitations should be issued only to those who applied.</span><br>
</i><span style="font-family:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><i>This misguided concept of &quot;fairness&quot; is a waste of at least three months in the process and is entirely unnecessary.</i></span><br>
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<span style="font-family:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)">1.9 We will prioritise those locations that do not overlap with an existing community radio service, by inviting applications in those areas now; and later
 this year invite applications in the areas where there is at least one existing community radio service.</span><br>
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<i><span style="font-family:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)">Why?</span><br>
<span style="font-family:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)">Many areas now have more than one CR service because they applied and Ofcom agreed. Again this so-called &quot;fairness&quot; policy is actually very unfair to Applicants
 who have already done all the hard work and are sitting waiting for the opportunity to apply.</span><br>
</i><span style="font-family:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><i>Ofcom is penalising good Applicants by making them wait while they open the door to those who have not done the work. Invite applications on merit
 - not on geography.</i></span><br>
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<span style="font-family:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)">1.10 An invitation to apply for new licences in the first batch of areas will be published alongside this statement. An updated application form and notes
 of guidance will be published next Friday, 5 May.</span><br>
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<span style="font-family:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><i>Ex</i><i>cellent - a good forward move - but let&#39;s cut out all the delays - shall we?</i></span><i><br>
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</i><span style="font-family:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)">Believe me - there&#39;s lots more!</span></span></span><br>
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<div id="m_-3411689803968877535divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif" color="#000000" style="font-size:11pt"><b>From:</b> Ian Hickling &lt;<a href="mailto:transplanfm@hotmail.com" target="_blank">transplanfm@hotmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 28 April 2017 11:32<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:office@thethread.org.uk" target="_blank">office@thethread.org.uk</a>; The Community Media Association Discussion List<br>
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<p>Interesting that Ofcom made an important announcement this morning:<br>
<a href="https://www.ofcom.org.uk/__data/assets/pdf_file/0020/101459/community-radio-future-licensing-technical-policy-statement.pdf" id="m_-3411689803968877535LPlnk328940" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">https://www.ofcom.org.uk/__<wbr>data/assets/pdf_file/0020/<wbr>101459/community-radio-future-<wbr>licensing-technical-policy-<wbr>statement.pdf</a><br>
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<p>just as the CMA delegation was going in to a meeting to discuss all of that - and a few other vital points.</p>
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Coincidence?<br>
Or carefully planned strategy?</p>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Century Gothic&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">Dear People of Great Loveliness</span></p>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Century Gothic&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">Not forgetting a troop of (few) other Stations who were hoodwinked at the outset as to what area they were meant to be covering, mind-boggled with jargon, led up the garden
 path, pecked at by (let’s use James’s phrase) childish moronic folk who lobbied to introduce restrictions (which by the way DID affect the set up) and still does indirectly affect operation as we still have to deal with all the baggage and leftovers from the
 mess     (and I don’t want any so called experts trying to tell me otherwise as we [canalside] lived it, breathed it and have the T-Shirt to prove it)      but alas, we have the Commercials / Experts who we have been told recently ‘apparently’     ‘’’want
 to help us’’’ </span></p>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Century Gothic&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">Actions speak louder than words, so the best thing everyone can do is go back to square one, start how we ought to have started and then all the angst and frustration gets
 put to bed, we forgive and forget and move on     YES    as a Radio Fraternity, each with our own roles to play.</span></p>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Century Gothic&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"> </span></p>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Century Gothic&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">Let’s ask the same questions, but wheel in the Man from Del Monte coz ‘’he say Yes’’</span></p>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Century Gothic&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">Personally, I do not have an issue with metaphorically speaking being third fiddle as I am but a mere insect in all of this, in fact I am but a mere insect in most things ---
 however, I take a dim view to being shoved to the back of the queue &amp; being third fiddle whilst having our noses rubbed in it at the same time.</span></p>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Century Gothic&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">Let us have a bit of respect shown to our sector with actions --- not words nor more consultations and then we can ALL go to the hob-knobbing gatherings on an equal footing.</span></p>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Century Gothic&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">If the experts and commercials do this, I will be the first person to give em a great big kiss and parade them around the streets of London in a sedan chair.</span></p>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Century Gothic&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">On a positive note ---- yes the experts giving tips and advice and putting it out there for us all is very good and it is to be applauded and I thank them and respect them
 for that – but you have to see the wider picture, and the wider picture is that unless you/we/they/DCMS/Ofcom/Uncle Tom Cobbley sort out the ‘’’politics’’’   implementing the advice ends up the same trying to push a 3 ton rock up Ben Nevis.</span></p>
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<b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif"> <a href="mailto:cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk" target="_blank">cma-l-bounces@mailman.<wbr>commedia.org.uk</a> [<a href="mailto:cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk" target="_blank">mailto:cma-l-bounces@mailman.<wbr>commedia.org.uk</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Bill Best<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 28 April 2017 09:36<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cma-l] Ofcom - tomorrow</span></p>
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I again draw your attention to Ofcom&#39;s consultation &quot;Community radio: future licensing and technical policy&quot; published on 28th October 2016:</p>
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1.4 We anticipate that our current (third) round of licensing will draw to a close in late spring 2017, and that licensing of small-scale DAB services may not commence before 2018. In the interim, we propose to license more analogue services, as well as consider
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We will be asking for further clarification of Ofcom&#39;s deadline and insisting that Ofcom publishes its response to the technical consultation that Sharon White indicated would be delivered by the end of April.</p>
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On 27 April 2017 at 11:34, Ian Hickling &lt;<a href="mailto:transplanfm@hotmail.com" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">transplanfm@hotmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:</p>
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