[cma-l] Community Radio Fund mini-survey

Canalside's The Thread office at thethread.org.uk
Thu May 26 07:51:22 BST 2016


Ask Mr Whittingdale and Mr Vaizey to raid a larder or two and come up with
the same amount for us    (just like they did for Community White Elephant
TV / BBC Journalists / Newspapers etc etc and then pop it in our Pot




.divvy the Pot out equally, and 50% of our problems disappear overnight.

8 Million on top of what we already have and it’s game over.

 

If not, then we DEMAND to know why not, so please ask the question.

 

Me personally, I would like the answer (whether negative or affirmative) to
be at least valid. I would be grateful if we don’t receive an answer that :-

 

1)       Insults our intelligence

2)       Tells us how wonderful we are, but gives us nothing concrete

3)       Tells us 20 things that we already know

 

In the event of a negative we need a Plan B. Plan B has to consist of either
a way forward, sideways or backwards as the Status Quo is as dead as a Dodo.

 

You then get a mandate from members 

.. preferably from those who are
prepared to stand up and be counted and/or those who are prepared to be
walked all over, keel over and die or spend the rest of their days as a
carpet.

 

We are not the third tier of broadcasting, we are the third fiddle in the
Orchestra at the moment.

 

Nick

 

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[mailto:cma-l-bounces at mailman.commedia.org.uk] On Behalf Of Martin Steers
Sent: 25 May 2016 16:22
To: The Community Media Association Discussion List
Subject: Re: [cma-l] Community Radio Fund mini-survey

 

Alan,

 

You do raise very good points, and I think you might be right.. but if
anything all we do is ask then at least we have done something.

 

Martin

 

On 25 May 2016 at 16:12, Alan Coote <alan.coote at 5digital.co.uk> wrote:

Martin,

 

I think the argument to support local papers is that the BBC will gain
qualified journalists as stringers where they don’t already have them or to
save money by reallocating staff. I’m not sure what numbers were crunched to
get to £8M but someone thought about it  -  for a few minutes at least. 

 

Most community stations don’t employ journalists, so it would be difficult
to justify diverting licence fee money into arguably less suitable
organisations, especially when they could undermine BBC local radios value
in serving the community.      

 

Personally – I don’t think there is much opportunity to engage with the BBC
on this issue.

 

Alan

Let’s Talk Business 

 

 

So thats BBC's money to sort of spend as they wish. Its also to fund the BBC
employment of staff into "qualifying local news organisations" so just cash
for newspapers.

 

There may be scope to engage with the BBC to unpick whats involved and to
see if community stations can be classified into these "qualifying local
news organisations" for journalists into stations (to not mention access to
local video etc).

 

Martin 

 

On 25 May 2016 at 12:53, Two Lochs Radio <tlr at gairloch.co.uk> wrote:

As per previous postings, Ron, the money would come from the licence fee.
The BBC reckons it is a good value for money (£8m/year) in news gathering,
giving it and other local media better and cost-effective coverage of local
news, particular things such as local authority and public utility news
stories.

For more details of how the BBC sees it:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/latestnews/2016/bbc-nma-partnership

Alex

On 25 May 2016 at 12:18 Ron Millet <ronm at bridging-thegap.co.uk> wrote:

The real set of questions to ask is.

 

1) where is the money for newspaper journalists coming from?

 

2) if it has come from Ofcom or DCMS resources from what sector has it been
taken?

 

3) what legislation and relevant section gives authority for granting these
monies?

 

 

Sent from my iPad


On 25 May 2016, at 19:59, Tony Bailey <ravensound at pilgrimsound.co.uk> wrote:

One possibility Nick (dredging the memory banks here) wasn't there a
proposal to introduce community Beeb websites which was seen by some to
undermine local press?  

Tony Bailey

On 23/05/16 12:32, Canalside's The Thread wrote:

 

QUOTE: 




I ask the question again and I have asked via my local MP / Mr Vaizey
this money that has suddenly appeared from nowhere to fund Newspaper
Journalists (which has absolutely nothing to do with Radio !)(unless I have
missed something?)      


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[mailto:cma-l-bounces at mailman.commedia.org.uk] On Behalf Of Bill Best
Sent: 20 May 2016 17:45
To: cma-l at commedia.org.uk
Subject: [cma-l] Community Radio Fund mini-survey

 

Hi

 

Just in case people didn't see this email buried in the long thread entitled
'Community Radio Fund & the CMA' I'm reposting this in a new thread to give
it higher profile.

 

The CMA informed DCMS in its 2014 Community Radio Consultation that we had
held a consultation meeting in Sheffield in April 2014 at which members
attending the meeting "unanimously put forward the view that the Community
Radio Fund should be distributed equally to all eligible stations rather
than on a contested basis as is now". However it was apparent at the time
that not all members supported that view.

 

The original question put forward by DCMS in its 2014 Consultation was as
follows:

 

Question 7 – How can Community Radio Fund grant funding be better used. 

There are no plans to alter how decisions are taken to distribute the grant
however we welcome views on other ways in which the grant could be better
targeted and how might this be done. 

 

Interestingly there is no acknowledgement of Question 7 in the Government
Response to the Consultation on Community Radio here: http://bit.ly/1XmMLaA

 

The advice I have received on this so far is that a change to how the
Community Radio Fund is distributed would not be impossible. However to
distribute the Fund equally between all licensed stations would require a
substantial change on which DCMS "would probably need to consult".

 

The agreement between DCMS and Ofcom is written by DCMS - the Fund belongs
to DCMS and is merely administered by Ofcom. The Funding Agreement for the
next four years now requires updating. For the current year (2016/17),
substantial change is not envisaged - the first round of the Fund
<http://stakeholders.ofcom.org.uk/broadcasting/radio/community-radio-fund/>
is already open for applications and closes next week on Thursday 26th May.

 

Going forward, DCMS will look more broadly at the CRF to reflect the secured
funding of £400,000 for community radio for 2016/17, 2017/18, 2018/19 and
2019/20. Other options for distributing the Fund will be considered.

 

This week, the CMA has again indicated to DCMS that a proposal to distribute
the CRF equally amongst licensed stations remains popular and the CMA will
collate the views expressed on this mailing list and submit them to DCMS and
to Ofcom. There is also an online form here for members to submit their
feedback:

 

http://bit.ly/2016CRF

 

We will keep this 'mini-survey' open until 30th June.

 

Best regards for now

 

Bill Best

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Book your tickets now for the Community Media Conference 2016:
http://bit.ly/2016CMAConf

 

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