[cma-l] Small Scale DAB Continued Discussion

[Martin Steers]

I completely agree, a lot of people seem aggrieved that the trail is a semi
success that its being continued whilst legislation is put in place to
enable others a chance to get on small scale dab!

James I will say (I dont have the stats to hand) but the Australian model
of community radio is slightly different, I think they receive a lot more
funding from the government / ABC, but its certainly great to hear
experiences and I am sure there is lots we could learn from them.

Martin

On 8 March 2016 at 13:56, Fred Marden <fred.marden at fredmarden.com> wrote:

> Absolutely exasperated seeing some of these postings.
>
> As James Cridland says, who could seriously be against an extension of
> broadcasting choice?
>
> Kind of worrying sometimes, that the minds that are currently engaged in
> community radio are, in fact, pretty closed.
>
> On 8 Mar 2016, 13:52, James Cridland <james at cridland.net> wrote:
>
> >Much of the qualifying criteria were technical and designed so that Ofcom
> could gain empirical data, therefore it’s a technical trial.<
>
> I think you misunderstand. It was a 9 month technical trial. I am now
> arguing that it is no longer a technical trial, and that Ofcom are just
> letting these muxes continue on-air while they work out what to do next.
> Good for listeners. Good for those people who gambled successfully to run
> those muxes. I can't see the downside.
>
> But, this being the community radio list, don't let me stand in the way of
> more gripes and moans about Ofcom and how desperately unfair life is in
> general. We haven't heard how much PRS and PPL are going to charge yet! A
> rich seam!
>
> In separate news, I'm really impressed at the quality of radio from the
> community radio sector here in Australia. I visited Bay FM in Byron Bay a
> few weeks ago, who had massively impressive news gathering, and 4ZZZ in
> Brisbane also has tremendous and unexpected programming (a fascinating
> computer games news show the other day). 4ZZZ appears to directly feed the
> local ABC with staff, and similarly many of the local ABC staff are also
> involved with 4ZZZ too. I've yet to hear anyone moan about ACMA, much less
> whine about the general unfairness of everything. Seems that people just
> get on and make great radio, with the same lack of resource as the UK
> manages on, by the way.
>
>
> On Tue, 8 Mar 2016, 20:48 Alan Coote <alan.coote at 5digital.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Hi James,
>>
>> Much of the qualifying criteria were technical and designed so that Ofcom
>> could gain empirical data, therefore it’s a technical trial.
>>
>> If it were a business feasibility study that would be structured very
>> differently and it could be 90% completed without the need for a trial.
>>
>> It's perfectly acceptable to run a trial and then have an assessment
>> period to analyse the data. It’s also fully understandable to allow the
>> existing services to continue; we wouldn’t expect anything less of course.
>>
>> However, if your conjecture regarding plurality is right then the only
>> reason for extending the trial is to stress test the stations and multiplex
>> operators. Putting it bluntly, the actual reason for the trial is to find
>> out how many will go bust.
>>
>> Kind Regards
>>
>> Alan
>>
>>
>>
>> Alan Coote
>>
>> Email - alan.coote at MonogramMedia.co.uk <alan.coote at 5digital.co.uk>
>>
>> Phone - 0800 949 6655
>>
>> Mobile - 07801 518858
>>
>> Twitter - @TheAlanCoote <http://www.twitter.com/TheAlanCoote>
>>
>>
>> Twitter - @LTBShow <http://www.twitter.com/TheAlanCoote>
>>
>> Web - http://www.LetsTalkBusinessOnline.com <http://www.5digital.co.uk/>
>>
>
On 8 March 2016 at 11:44, Alex Gray, Two Lochs Radio <tlr at gairloch.co.uk>
wrote:

> Quite, Ian!
>
>
>
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> *Subject:* [cma-l] Ofcom: 10th March, DCMS: 11th March
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>
>
> The DCMS "instructing" Ofcom?
>
> Are you sure Martin?
>
> That doesn't seen to happen anywhere near often enough.
> I can think of quite a few more "instructions" that are long overdue.
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