<div dir="ltr"><div>I completely agree, a lot of people seem aggrieved that the trail is a semi success that its being continued whilst legislation is put in place to enable others a chance to get on small scale dab!</div><div><br></div><div>James I will say (I dont have the stats to hand) but the Australian model of community radio is slightly different, I think they receive a lot more funding from the government / ABC, but its certainly great to hear experiences and I am sure there is lots we could learn from them.</div><div><br></div><div>Martin</div><div><br></div>On 8 March 2016 at 13:56, Fred Marden <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:fred.marden@fredmarden.com" target="_blank">fred.marden@fredmarden.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div></div><div>Absolutely exasperated seeing some of these postings.</div><div><br></div><div>As James Cridland says, who could seriously be against an extension of broadcasting choice?</div><div><br></div><div>Kind of worrying sometimes, that the minds that are currently engaged in community radio are, in fact, pretty closed.</div><div><div class="h5"><div><br>On 8 Mar 2016, 13:52, James Cridland <<a href="mailto:james@cridland.net" target="_blank">james@cridland.net</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite">>Much of the qualifying criteria were technical and designed so that Ofcom could gain empirical data, therefore it’s a technical trial.<<div><br></div><div>I think you misunderstand. It was a 9 month technical trial. I am now arguing that it is no longer a technical trial, and that Ofcom are just letting these muxes continue on-air while they work out what to do next. Good for listeners. Good for those people who gambled successfully to run those muxes. I can't see the downside.</div><div><br></div><div>But, this being the community radio list, don't let me stand in the way of more gripes and moans about Ofcom and how desperately unfair life is in general. We haven't heard how much PRS and PPL are going to charge yet! A rich seam!</div><div><br></div><div>In separate news, I'm really impressed at the quality of radio from the community radio sector here in Australia. I visited Bay FM in Byron Bay a few weeks ago, who had massively impressive news gathering, and 4ZZZ in Brisbane also has tremendous and unexpected programming (a fascinating computer games news show the other day). 4ZZZ appears to directly feed the local ABC with staff, and similarly many of the local ABC staff are also involved with 4ZZZ too. I've yet to hear anyone moan about ACMA, much less whine about the general unfairness of everything. Seems that people just get on and make great radio, with the same lack of resource as the UK manages on, by the way.</div><div><br></div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Tue, 8 Mar 2016, 20:48 Alan Coote <<a href="mailto:alan.coote@5digital.co.uk" target="_blank">alan.coote@5digital.co.uk</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word;font-size:14px;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><div>Hi James,</div><div><br></div><div>Much of the qualifying criteria were technical and designed so that Ofcom could gain empirical data, therefore it’s a technical trial.</div><div><br></div><div>If it were a business feasibility study that would be structured very differently and it could be 90% completed without the need for a trial.</div><div><br></div><div>It's perfectly acceptable to run a trial and then have an assessment period to analyse the data. It’s also fully understandable to allow the existing services to continue; we wouldn’t expect anything less of course.</div><div><br></div><div>However, if your conjecture regarding plurality is right then the only reason for extending the trial is to stress test the stations and multiplex operators. Putting it bluntly, the actual reason for the trial is to find out how many will go bust.</div><div><br></div><div><div></div></div></div><div style="word-wrap:break-word;font-size:14px;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><font size="3">Kind Regards<u></u><u></u></font></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><font size="3">Alan<u></u><u></u></font></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><font size="3"> <u></u><u></u></font></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><font size="3">Alan Coote</font></span></p></div><div style="word-wrap:break-word;font-size:14px;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><font size="3">Email - <u></u><u></u></font></span><a href="mailto:alan.coote@5digital.co.uk" target="_blank" style="color:purple">alan.coote@MonogramMedia.co.uk</a></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><font size="3">Phone - 0800 949 6655<u></u><u></u></font></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><font size="3">Mobile - 07801 518858<u></u><u></u></font></span></p></div><div style="word-wrap:break-word;font-size:14px;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><font size="3">Twitter - <span style="color:rgb(107,0,109)"><a href="http://www.twitter.com/TheAlanCoote" target="_blank">@TheAlanCoote</a></span></font></span> </p><p class="MsoNormal"><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><font size="3">Twitter - <a href="http://www.twitter.com/TheAlanCoote" target="_blank"><span style="color:rgb(107,0,109)">@LTBShow</span></a><u></u><u></u></font></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><font size="3">Web - <span style="color:rgb(107,0,109)"><a href="http://www.5digital.co.uk/" target="_blank">http://www.LetsTalkBusinessOnline.com</a></span></font></span></p></div></blockquote></div></div></blockquote></div></div></div></blockquote></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 8 March 2016 at 11:44, Alex Gray, Two Lochs Radio <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:tlr@gairloch.co.uk" target="_blank">tlr@gairloch.co.uk</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-GB" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Quite, Ian!<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #e1e1e1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> <a href="mailto:cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk" target="_blank">cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk" target="_blank">cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Ian Hickling<br><b>Sent:</b> 08 March 2016 11:30<br><b>To:</b> Martin Steers <<a href="mailto:martin@martinsteers.co.uk" target="_blank">martin@martinsteers.co.uk</a>>; The Community Media Association Discussion List <<a href="mailto:cma-l@mailman.commedia.org.uk" target="_blank">cma-l@mailman.commedia.org.uk</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> [cma-l] Ofcom: 10th March, DCMS: 11th March<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><span class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">The DCMS "instructing" Ofcom?<u></u><u></u></span></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Are you sure Martin?<u></u><u></u></span></p><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">That doesn't seen to happen anywhere near often enough.<br>I can think of quite a few more "instructions" that are long overdue.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div></div></span></div>
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