[cma-l] Joint PRS/PPL licences

Bill Best bill.best at commedia.org.uk
Sat Jul 2 13:01:52 BST 2016


Thank you for your message, Colin.

Regarding music licence fees for a 28-day RSL, here's a summary.

*a) PRS For Music short-term radio licence*
PRS collect licence fees for the public performance and broadcast of music
works on behalf of the UK music publisher.

http://www.prsformusic.com/users/broadcastandonline/Radio/STRL/Pages/shorttermrestricted.aspx

The licence fees are £40 for each day of broadcast plus £70 administration
fee exclusive of VAT. For example a four day broadcast would cost £230 plus
VAT. Payment must be in advance by enclosing a cheque with the application
form. Therefore for a 28-day RSL the cost is £1428.00 in total.

The licence issued by PRS for Music includes the rights to:

   - Broadcast and simulcast PRS for Music repertoire on radio services
   transmitted from the UK.
   - Copy MCPS commercial music repertoire into programme material and
   trailers.
   - Copy MCPS production music repertoire into programme and non-programme
   content such as trailers.
   - Copy MCPS repertoire onto databases and servers for the purposes of
   providing the broadcast service.

This licence does not cover the use of music in adverts, commercials,
promos, sponsorship messages or any programmes not produced by the station.
The full Terms and Conditions are contained in their application pack
available online.

*b) PPL Short Term Restricted Service Licence:*
The Short Term Restricted Service Licence covers Ofcom-licensed radio
broadcasts for a maximum of 28 days. Any individual or organisation hoping
to obtain a Short Term Restricted Service Licence must first obtain
approval for their transmission from the UK communications regulator, Ofcom.

If a Short Term Restricted Service broadcaster intends to simulcast these
transmissions online they do NOT need to apply for a separate or additional
licence, they simply need to fill out the relevant details on the Short
Term RSL application form. Terms and conditions:

http://www.ppluk.com/en/I-Play-Music/Radio-Broadcasting/Radio-types/Short-term-licence/

   - For radio broadcasting only the PPL licence fee is £35/day + VAT =
   £1176-00
   - To simulcast the RSL online there is a fee of £50 + VAT = £60-00

These combined fees for a 28-day RSL are indeed steep (compared to the
annual licences) and, though beyond the scope of the Joint Licence
consultation which will relate to full-time community radio stations, the
CMA will question the basis on which these sums have been arrived and will
make the case to PPL and PRSfM that they do indeed need to be reviewed.

Best regards

Bill Best
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On 2 July 2016 at 00:28, Colin Pearse <colin at susyradio.com> wrote:

> Hi............................I would add this comment but slightly on a
> different tack in regard to the proposed new joint PPL / PRS licence
> proposals.  LET US NOT FORGET the highly unfair tariffs that made
> undertaking RSL's so stupidly expensive. Problem is that once you have
> gained your full time licence its easy to forget the cross most of us have
> had to suffer in paying what were very inflated rates for short term low
> power temporary broadcast licenses. I always felt that this was almost a
> case for investigation by the Office of Fair Trading.  Prior to our full
> licence we did 18 RSL's and were involved with perhaps as many again for
> other groups. That amounts to a huge pile of cash for the music licenses
> involved which I and many colleagues have deemed as very unfair. Perhaps we
> can now have a simple, cheap ticket in the form of a licence for broadcast
> music of perhaps just a few hundred pounds in order to encourage would be
> legal experimental broadcasters not as in the current regime of perhaps two
> and a half thousand pounds.  Three points................Due to the high
> RSL licence costs why can't it be deemed that all these very expensive
> licenses were in fact mis sold. PPI all over again!! Secondly, I know of no
> cases where the illegal broadcasters have been taken to court for non
> payment of fees. That has always seemed most strange to me seeing as the
> 'music police' have always been so pro active over the charging of licence
> fees. Lastly, as the number of radio stations grows to the point where the
> total exceed the number of possible listeners as the number of broadcasters
> rises then shouldn't the fees get cheaper. This does fall down on the point
> that perhaps 'our dear listeners' are enjoying a number of radio stations
> simultaneously!
>
> Some points for discussion I think.
> Colin Pearse / SUSY Radio / Reigate & Crawley😊
>
> On 1 July 2016 at 23:33, Eddie Stuart <eddie at kcr.fm> wrote:
>
>>  Hi Ian,
>>
>> Yup - Agreed NBR etc for PPL/PRS calculations - but I was pointing out to
>> Nick that a flat £2K would be more than we currently pay and for us would
>> be a sizeable %age increase.... even against our total income
>>
>> The downside of having been a Community Part-Time Opt-Out from the local
>> lLR station is that most of our licence fees etc were covered - now we are
>> on our own, it's great, but reality comes crashing in - so the £12K will be
>> & is increasing!
>>
>> However, we've upped our total income in 18 months from £9K pa to £12K pa
>> - so we could well do without what to us would be another hit if PPL/PRS
>> has an unbudgeted jump to £2K in 6 months time.....
>>
>> Eddie
>>
>> KCR broadcasts across Moray and beyond on 107.7FM
>> and to the world on the internet at http://kcr.fm
>>
>> KCR is the operating name of Keith Community Radio Ltd.
>> Registered in Scotland: No SC 173805
>> Registered Office: 59a Land Street, Keith, Banffshire, AB55 5AN
>>
>>
>>
>> On 01/07/16 22:15, Ian Hickling wrote:
>>
>> It's not "Turnover" Eddie - it's "Net Revenue" - what you have left after
>> you've paid all the operating costs.
>> Not a lot?
>>
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>> ------------------------------
>> To: cma-l at mailman.commedia.org.uk
>> From: eddie at kcr.fm
>> Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2016 19:15:02 +0100
>> Subject: Re: [cma-l] Joint PRS/PPL licences
>>
>> Hmm - Our normal turnover - in total - is only about £12K........ :-)
>>
>> Eddie
>>
>> KCR broadcasts across Moray and beyond on 107.7FM
>> and to the world on the internet at http://kcr.fm
>>
>> KCR is the operating name of Keith Community Radio Ltd.
>> Registered in Scotland: No SC 173805
>> Registered Office: 59a Land Street, Keith, Banffshire, AB55 5AN
>>
>>
>> On 30/06/16 14:59, Canalside's The Thread wrote:
>>
>> I have suggested £2000 pounds for the lot ! as a top figure. When I say
>> the lot, this includes both FM and Internet and ALL on one licence,
>> including D.A.B.     if we get it
>>
>>
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