[cma-l] Joint PRS/PPL licences

Fri Jul 1 11:36:16 BST 2016

Funny we're talking about this at the moment .it's a hundred and 4 years to
the Day that the copyright act was passed. Some guy woke up one morning and
thought ''eh up .. now here's a licence to print money'' and everyone since
has just gone along with it.

To be clear, I accept that the Law is Law and things have to be paid ...BUT
the mistake from the outset that we made (and I point it out at the time
with a big red 'beware' sign) is we should have negotiated and stuck by a
FIXED FEE and NOT a Minimum Fee .... If you run with a minimum fee you are
always in a position further down the line where you could get your Hat
nailed on .with a FIXED FEE everything else after the payment becomes
irrelevant and pointless.

We have always maintained the fixed fee (be it the minimum) and gone from
there. We set up a S/O and left it at that. From what I read and what I can
see, some haven't paid anything and are drifting up lumber creek.

I mention this because I always seem to be the one who people think is
sounding off ....not the case, I merely highlight the points whilst
remaining within the guidelines. I do feel however after 14 years it is time
we pushed the boundaries a bit as we are going around in constant circles.

As I say,   re my previous post, please do not sign on any dotted lines
until / unless we have a figure and a figure based on a FIXED FEE not a
minimum fee. If it is fixed, there no need for any bureaucracy or pointless
reporting.

This one stop shop malarkey ???    a one stop shop for whom ?    us ?   or
the PPL/PRS

Put ALL the licences together is another suggestion including t'internet
feed

Onwards and Upwards

Regards

Nick Dumpty

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[mailto:cma-l-bounces at mailman.commedia.org.uk] On Behalf Of Ian Hickling
Sent: 30 June 2016 22:21
To: The Community Media Association Discussion List
Subject: [cma-l] Joint PRS/PPL licences

That's surprising - they were always traditionally at daggers drawn.

But it still doesn't answer two points:
1 - Exactly where in Law dies it require broadcasters to pay these two
private organisations a fee that they determine between them?
2 - If it is a firm legal requirement - why doesn't Ofcom include it as an
integral part of the mandatory licence fee structure?
My feeling is that the answer to the second point determines the first
point.

Ian Hickling

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From: tlr at gairloch.co.uk
To: cma-l at mailman.commedia.org.uk
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2016 11:54:39 +0100
Subject: [cma-l] Joint PRS/PPL licences

We received an interesting letter today from PPL giving notice of
termination of our current licence on 31 Dec because they are proposing to
come up with a joint PPL/PRS licence for community radio from that date.

This should make things easier for everyone and reduce the admin burden,
which is good news, and I guess will be generally welcomed.

The letter says PPL and PRS will be consulting with the sector over the plan
- I would urge CMA and anyone else able to respond to press for the new
minimum fee to be no more than the present minimum fee of either one of the
two bodies.

It seems to me if the new system will reduce their admin costs, there should
be no need for more than the equivalent of one current minimum fee to cover
that, especially as no doubt nowadays more of the admin is done at low cost
by IT than it used to be, rather than an army of clerks.

Alex

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