[cma-l] AM for CR

Thu Feb 18 09:09:25 GMT 2016

MW definitely has a fascination for some of us.  I was amazed to pick up
BBC Radio Ulster in my car on 1341kHz earlier this week and stayed with it
all morning - crackes, fades and all.  The idea of going to the internet to
listen in (in better quality) just doesn't appeal in the same way.

Would I put my station or another one on MW?  Absolutely not!

Paul
Phoenix FM

On 17 February 2016 at 23:39, David Duffy <david at theradiopeople.co.uk>
wrote:

> It's funny really because, here we have expressions of a romantic
> attachment to crackly AM. Yet elsewhere I hear an indictment of DAB
> multiplex operators who broadcast music stations at 80kbps mono. There's a
> strange, contradictory and unsatisfiable constituency out there.
>
> On a pragmatic note, an illicit love affair with AM holds us back. An
> intransigence to sacrifice digital bit rate to introduce more variety and
> choice of services holds us back. We need to move forward and that
> sometimes means taking a leap of faith. Embracing the less certain.
>
> The future of radio lies not in the past but in the road ahead.
>
> David
> www.theradiopeople.co.uk
>
> On 17 Feb 2016, at 12:04, Canalside's The Thread <office at thethread.org.uk>
> wrote:
>
> Another good point                    Radio Luxembourg 208 metres in 1975
> when I was 16, under my bed sheets on a cold winters night listening to Bob
> Stewart playing Ms Grace by the Tymes        oh the memories
>
>
>
> Wrighty
>
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> <cma-l-bounces at mailman.commedia.org.uk>] *On Behalf Of *Eryl Price-Davies
> *Sent:* 17 February 2016 11:30
> *To:* The Community Media Association Discussion List
> *Subject:* Re: [cma-l] AM for CR
>
>
>
> I like AM.  I listen in the car to 5Live and others (including the cricket
> on LW), and I also listen at home - mainly at night since I can't stand the
> World Service jingles (or content) during the night.  Crystal clear sound
> quality is overrated...I like the 'radioness' (radioicity?) of listening of
> AM - the crackle, hum, distorition etc etc all give it warmth and,
> especially when listening to overseas stations, a wonderful sense of
> 'otherness'.
>
> I'd love to hear more AM in the UK...but also recognise that in the
> digital age its fuzziness and humanity are unwelcome guests for many radio
> managers who prefer cold hard delivery. ;)
>
>
>
> Eryl
>
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 9:48 AM, Tony Bailey <
> ravensound at pilgrimsound.co.uk> wrote:
>
> MF/AM (medium/long wave) is a legacy system with older listeners
> predominantly, but we, the Aussies and Americans still find it useful.  It
> is possible to listen to it on a battery powered radio which will run for
> days on a couple of AA's.  In the US they even extended the medium wave
> band, which could be done here now as many receivers cover up to 1700 kHz.
> It's ability to cross boundaries has sometimes been useful although less
> cost effective now. As always, given relatively free access to broadcasting
> excess demand has driven the need to exploit any available waveband and
> this will continue until cheap mobile internet radio takes over.
>
> There are a couple of ways I would look at AM community applications: Low
> power AM as a way to get a better deal on music licensing (fingers
> crossed!) for an essentially web only radio; or higher power AM coupled
> with an online (decent quality) receiver selling promotion to the served
> community.  As with FM the transmission site is critical.  Keep away from
> domestic housing and look for high ground conductivity, this is
> particularly important with short aerials (less than 1/4 wave).  To save
> costs, you could reduce power overnight as audience numbers will often be
> low and incoming interference high (the permitted power would not overcome
> it anyway).  There are still quite a few car radios with AM for the
> dedicated listeners.
>
> Tony Bailey
>
>
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> On 17/02/16 02:45, James Cridland wrote:
>
> AM is being switched off all over Europe, including here in the UK.
>
>
>
> AM receivers are being removed from cars (BMW one of the first), will
> never be in most microprocessor-powered electronics, like mobile phones.
>
>
>
> The sound quality is relatively dire, the electricity costs are huge, the
> interference is growing, the user experience lacking, the audience is
> falling away. Many AM masts are nearing the end of their life cycle.
>
>
>
> AM isn't an equivalent platform to FM, therefore; and you'd be crazy to
> want to use it.
>
>
>
> (It is still quite large in Australia, for coverage reasons,
> incidentally, but I still worry about its future here too).
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, 17 Feb 2016, 12:36 AM Ian Hickling <transplanfm at hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> We have been trying for over 8 months now to together a reliable and
> predictable  AM transmission system together for a Client (sadly not a CMA
> Member) who insists on taking an AM frequency rather than pushing Ofcom for
> FM.
>
> We're now looking at a 600W transmitter from Bulgaria.
>
> Can I ask for some views please?
>
> Does anyone have anything positive to say about Ofcom's policies of:
>
>    - Offering AM as an equivalental platform to FM?
>    - Offering only AM if an Applicant wants greater coverage than a 5km
>    radius
>    - Offering AM licences on a countrywide basis in the second half of
>    2016
>
>
>
> Thanks for whatever you can contribute
>
>
>
> *Ian Hickling*
>
> Partner
>
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