[cma-l] FW: It's your CMA! Talk to us.
Richard Berry
richard.berry at sunderland.ac.uk
Mon Dec 19 14:59:43 GMT 2016
This is a really interesting thread.
I think different stations call the people who keep the service ticking over different things. There will be some places where these people are members, because they pay their subs and have a vote on what the organisation does. I tend to use the word ‘volunteer’ as it indicate that the team are not being paid and whilst they are brilliant this means a different level of service than if we paid them. By that I mean the task will be performed to a high degree, but please don’t expect them to be there every day of the week between 9an and 5pm.
Nick probably has it right in using the word participants, as they all participate in the management and operation of the service. Whilst it might be useful to delineate between those who are managers and those who are not, a blanket term remains a useful point of difference for our sector. Community media is part of the voluntary sector and we should be proud of that. Of course, if someone could pay a wage to everyone that would be wonderful, but in most cases that’s not why people are here
Best wishes
Richard
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Everyone seems to be forgetting one crucial thing though. And please please, this isn’t being disrespectful it being factual. In our trade 75% (and on this figure I’m being lenient) of the Volunteers don’t actually volunteer for what we would like them to do for us, they volunteer for themselves (because it’s Radio)
How many ‘’’show AND go’’’ have you got ? plenty I bet
Basically there are good volunteers, there are fair to middling volunteers and then there are those who are only in it for what they can get out of it ---- they’re not volunteers, they are participants but get put down as volunteers. However, the argument against is if you don’t have show and go volunteers/participants you end up with just a jukebox
It’s all about a fine balance, which I think is where we came in earlier
All the best
Nick
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Subject: Re: [cma-l] It's your CMA! Talk to us.
The reason for having one word is surely just for ease of talking - in fact is it not why you chose to use that word in the first place? Because listing all the specific roles the volunteers do would be cumbersome in conversation?
I work for a large aerospace company as an engineer. They refer to all of us as "employees" - should I expect them each time they refer to the workforce to instead say "engineers, researchers, technicians, HR personnel, finance guys, lawyers, caterers, cleaners...."? Having one word to describe the group of people is a just practical.
On Sun, Dec 18, 2016 at 11:41 PM Ian Hickling <transplanfm at hotmail.com<mailto:transplanfm at hotmail.com>> wrote:
Why do we think we need a blanket word to cover all of them?
That's just lazy thinking and in reality puts them down.
if we're all "volunteers" - then it's hardly a useful description.
Thinking only about the people who work unpaid at radio stations that brought this up - instead of trying to classify them all by an arbitrary status - give them the privilege of acknowledging what they do.
Contributor - stakeholder - partner - member - associate - colleague - participant.
Take your pick.
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‘Volunteers’… Firefighter, Lifeboat Crew, Police Constable…
Far from unprofessional and very worthwhile I think you’d agree?
Alan
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Subject: Re: [cma-l] It's your CMA! Talk to us.
Why?
Because it's so unprofessional - it doesn't really give anyone any confidence.
And it's too vague - about as useful as "a member of the public".
Yes - most of us do what we do without payment because we see a need and we want to fill it - but surely we don't all need to wear the same arbitrary label?
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Subject: Re: [cma-l] It's your CMA! Talk to us.
Hi Ian,
Why do you say 'volunteer' is an awful word? I don't understand your point volunteers effectively managing the station - isn't that the norm for community radio? That there is no paid staff and it's run by volunteers?
On Fri, 16 Dec 2016 09:55 Ian Hickling, <transplanfm at hotmail.com<mailto:transplanfm at hotmail.com>> wrote:
I think we all appreciate your sympathy and advice Lucinda, thank you.
In terms of a potential Licence terms breach - we always advise that Ofcom is formally notified as soon as anything untoward happens - and then they can respond to any complainant that they are aware of the problem.
The volunteer situation is far more complex and there isn't a one-size-fits-all solution.
Management is the key - closely aligned with good commercial practice and sound financial common-sense.
We see far too many potentially good CR stations where the volunteer (awful word) aspect effectively manages the station - and a camel/committee situation is the result.
Ian Hickling
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Subject: [cma-l] It's your CMA! Talk to us.
Dear All,
Like many of us, I was saddened to hear the announcement that two community radio stations switch off their transmitters this week. This is a tragedy for the residents of both Spalding and Cheddar, who have lost vital opportunities to have their voices heard, and experience the joy of community radio as both participants and listeners.
The CMA very much wants to help in these situations - but we can't unless we know what is going on. As someone put it to me today, we don't have an alarm in the CMA batcave every time a station is in trouble.
It may sound obvious, but please let us know how things are for you. For example, if someone has made a formal complaint to Ofcom and you may be in breach of your licence, how you handle the next steps can make a huge difference. If you find yourself in this situation, phone the CMA office straight away, or email Bill and ask his advice. He has helped many licensed stations through these kind of problems..
If your issue is volunteers then please contact me directly, using the chair at commedia.org.uk<mailto:chair at commedia.org.uk> email and I will find time to have a chat. Whether you have too many volunteers, not enough, or just the wrong kind, there will be a way through the situation.
While I'm here I'd like to congratulate both Tulip Radio and Pulse on their achievements over the years. I'm sure that their impact on their local communities will have lasting effects, even if they are not still around to broadcast about it. I wish all their staff, directors and volunteers well with whatever they do next.
Lucinda
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