[cma-l] It's your CMA! Talk to us.
Ian Hickling
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Mon Dec 19 13:18:40 GMT 2016
The point I was making Rhys is where the presumed interests of the "volunteers" were influencing the station in that they are given priority over what would be considered good management.
The oft-heard cry is - "You can't tell them what to do - they're volunteers"!
Need In say more?
Ian Hickling
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From: cma-l-bounces at mailman.commedia.org.uk <cma-l-bounces at mailman.commedia.org.uk> on behalf of Rhys Phillips (Radio Cardiff) <rhys.phillips at radiocardiff.org>
Sent: 19 December 2016 12:26:05
To: The Community Media Association Discussion List; office at thethread.org.uk
Subject: Re: [cma-l] It's your CMA! Talk to us.
In which case I don't understand you when you said:
"We see far too many potentially good CR stations where the volunteer aspect effectively manages the station"
?
On Mon, 19 Dec 2016 12:18 Ian Hickling, <transplanfm at hotmail.com<mailto:transplanfm at hotmail.com>> wrote:
Not at all Rhys - the comment is about what we call them - not what they are or do.
Ian Hickling
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Sent: 19 December 2016 10:56:01
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Subject: Re: [cma-l] It's your CMA! Talk to us.
Yes you need a few people dedicated to running it but there isn't an issue with that small group being volunteers is there?
It'd be great if stations could afford paid staff but in reality how many stations can actually do that?
On Mon, 19 Dec 2016 08:27 Canalside's The Thread, <office at thethread.org.uk<mailto:office at thethread.org.uk>> wrote:
Dear All
Let’s be honest with each other ---- the best system is a few paid Staff (the ones who are hands on, on a more regular basis with consistency and continuity) being helped out and assisted by Volunteers, with the ‘volunteer’ focusing on one / maybe two items so as not to end up with the left hand not knowing what the right hand is doing.
We believe (as I say) a nice mix (if of course you can afford it) and so the merry-go-round starts up again.
Worth remembering the old adage as well ‘’What’s a Donkey ?’’ ‘’a Donkey is a Horse designed by Committee’’
You have to have a couple of folk upfront steering the Ship, even if it is heading for the rocks – at least you know who to blame
Onwards and Upwards Merry Christmas everyone
Nick
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Subject: Re: [cma-l] It's your CMA! Talk to us.
But actually my question was more about this:
"We see far too many potentially good CR stations where the volunteer (awful word) aspect effectively manages the station - and a camel/committee situation is the result."
Given most community stations are indees run by volunteers, I don't see how it can be avoided that volunteers manage the station? And I don't see why it's a problem?
On Sun, 18 Dec 2016 16:19 Rhys Phillips (Radio Cardiff), <rhys.phillips at radiocardiff.org<mailto:rhys.phillips at radiocardiff.org>> wrote:
In a business with paid employees, the word staff is used which is just as general. I don't see why 'volunteer' sounds unprofessional or lacking in confidence. I see it as something to be proud of.
On Sun, 18 Dec 2016 15:35 Ian Hickling, <transplanfm at hotmail.com<mailto:transplanfm at hotmail.com>> wrote:
Why?
Because it's so unprofessional - it doesn't really give anyone any confidence.
And it's too vague - about as useful as "a member of the public".
Yes - most of us do what we do without payment because we see a need and we want to fill it - but surely we don't all need to wear the same arbitrary label?
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Sent: 16 December 2016 18:02:03
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Hi Ian,
Why do you say 'volunteer' is an awful word? I don't understand your point volunteers effectively managing the station - isn't that the norm for community radio? That there is no paid staff and it's run by volunteers?
On Fri, 16 Dec 2016 09:55 Ian Hickling, <transplanfm at hotmail.com<mailto:transplanfm at hotmail.com>> wrote:
I think we all appreciate your sympathy and advice Lucinda, thank you.
In terms of a potential Licence terms breach - we always advise that Ofcom is formally notified as soon as anything untoward happens - and then they can respond to any complainant that they are aware of the problem.
The volunteer situation is far more complex and there isn't a one-size-fits-all solution.
Management is the key - closely aligned with good commercial practice and sound financial common-sense.
We see far too many potentially good CR stations where the volunteer (awful word) aspect effectively manages the station - and a camel/committee situation is the result.
Ian Hickling
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Subject: [cma-l] It's your CMA! Talk to us.
Dear All,
Like many of us, I was saddened to hear the announcement that two community radio stations switch off their transmitters this week. This is a tragedy for the residents of both Spalding and Cheddar, who have lost vital opportunities to have their voices heard, and experience the joy of community radio as both participants and listeners.
The CMA very much wants to help in these situations - but we can't unless we know what is going on. As someone put it to me today, we don't have an alarm in the CMA batcave every time a station is in trouble.
It may sound obvious, but please let us know how things are for you. For example, if someone has made a formal complaint to Ofcom and you may be in breach of your licence, how you handle the next steps can make a huge difference. If you find yourself in this situation, phone the CMA office straight away, or email Bill and ask his advice. He has helped many licensed stations through these kind of problems..
If your issue is volunteers then please contact me directly, using the chair at commedia.org.uk<mailto:chair at commedia.org.uk> email and I will find time to have a chat. Whether you have too many volunteers, not enough, or just the wrong kind, there will be a way through the situation.
While I'm here I'd like to congratulate both Tulip Radio and Pulse on their achievements over the years. I'm sure that their impact on their local communities will have lasting effects, even if they are not still around to broadcast about it. I wish all their staff, directors and volunteers well with whatever they do next.
Lucinda
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