[cma-l] It's your CMA! Talk to us.

Rhys Phillips (Radio Cardiff) rhys.phillips at radiocardiff.org
Mon Dec 19 12:26:05 GMT 2016


In which case I don't understand you when you said:

"We see far too many potentially good CR stations where the volunteer
aspect effectively manages the station"

?

On Mon, 19 Dec 2016 12:18 Ian Hickling, <transplanfm at hotmail.com> wrote:

>
> Not at all Rhys - the comment is about what we call them - not what they
> are or do.
>
>
> Ian Hickling
>
> Partner
>
> <http://www.transplanuk.com/>
>
> *Office: 016 3557 8435  (07h to 22h GTS)*
>
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> *From:* cma-l-bounces at mailman.commedia.org.uk <
> cma-l-bounces at mailman.commedia.org.uk> on behalf of Rhys Phillips (Radio
> Cardiff) <rhys.phillips at radiocardiff.org>
> *Sent:* 19 December 2016 10:56:01
> *To:* office at thethread.org.uk; The Community Media Association Discussion
> List
>
> *Subject:* Re: [cma-l] It's your CMA! Talk to us.
> Yes you need a few people dedicated to running it but there isn't an issue
> with that small group being volunteers is there?
>
> It'd be great if stations could afford paid staff but in reality how many
> stations can actually do that?
>
> On Mon, 19 Dec 2016 08:27 Canalside's The Thread, <office at thethread.org.uk>
> wrote:
>
> Dear All
>
>
>
> Let’s be honest with each other ---- the best system is a few paid Staff
> (the ones who are hands on, on a more regular basis with consistency and
> continuity) being helped out and assisted by Volunteers, with the
> ‘volunteer’ focusing on one / maybe two items so as not to end up with the
> left hand not knowing what the right hand is doing.
>
> We believe (as I say) a nice mix (if of course you can afford it)     and
> so the merry-go-round starts up again.
>
>
>
> Worth remembering the old adage as well            ‘’What’s a Donkey
> ?’’                      ‘’a Donkey is a Horse designed by Committee’’
>
>
>
> You have to have a couple of folk upfront steering the Ship, even if it is
> heading for the rocks – at least you know who to blame
>
>
>
> Onwards and Upwards    Merry Christmas everyone
>
>
>
> Nick
>
>
>
> *From:* cma-l-bounces at mailman.commedia.org.uk [mailto:
> cma-l-bounces at mailman.commedia.org.uk] *On Behalf Of *Rhys Phillips
> (Radio Cardiff)
> *Sent:* 18 December 2016 16:29
> *To:* The Community Media Association Discussion List <
> cma-l at mailman.commedia.org.uk>
>
>
> *Subject:* Re: [cma-l] It's your CMA! Talk to us.
>
>
>
> But actually my question was more about this:
>
>
>
> "We see far too many potentially good CR stations where the volunteer
> (awful word) aspect effectively manages the station - and a camel/committee
> situation is the result."
>
>
>
> Given most community stations are indees run by volunteers, I don't see
> how it can be avoided that volunteers manage the station? And I don't see
> why it's a problem?
>
>
>
> On Sun, 18 Dec 2016 16:19 Rhys Phillips (Radio Cardiff), <
> rhys.phillips at radiocardiff.org> wrote:
>
> In a business with paid employees, the word staff is used which is just as
> general. I don't see why 'volunteer' sounds unprofessional or lacking in
> confidence. I see it as something to be proud of.
>
> On Sun, 18 Dec 2016 15:35 Ian Hickling, <transplanfm at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> Why?
>  Because it's so unprofessional - it doesn't really give anyone any
> confidence.
> And it's too vague - about as useful as "a member of the public".
> Yes - most of us do what we do without payment because we see a need and
> we want to fill it - but surely we don't all need to wear the same
> arbitrary label?
>
>
>
> Ian Hickling
>
> Partner
>
> <http://www.transplanuk.com/>
>
> *Office: 016 3557 8435  (07h to 22h GTS)*
>
> *Car: 075 3098 0115 (only responds when driving)*
>
> *6 Horn Street, Compton, NEWBURY, RG20 6QS*
> ------------------------------
>
> *From:* cma-l-bounces at mailman.commedia.org.uk <
> cma-l-bounces at mailman.commedia.org.uk> on behalf of Rhys Phillips (Radio
> Cardiff) <rhys.phillips at radiocardiff.org>
> *Sent:* 16 December 2016 18:02:03
>
>
> *To:* The Community Media Association Discussion List
>
> *Cc:* chair at commedia.org.uk
> *Subject:* Re: [cma-l] It's your CMA! Talk to us.
>
>
>
> Hi Ian,
>
>
>
> Why do you say 'volunteer' is an awful word? I don't understand your point
> volunteers effectively managing the station - isn't that the norm for
> community radio? That there is no paid staff and it's run by volunteers?
>
> On Fri, 16 Dec 2016 09:55 Ian Hickling, <transplanfm at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> I think we all appreciate your sympathy and advice Lucinda, thank you.
> In terms of a potential Licence terms breach - we always advise that Ofcom
> is formally notified as soon as anything untoward happens - and then they
> can respond to any complainant that they are aware of the problem.
> The volunteer situation is far more complex and there isn't a
> one-size-fits-all solution.
> Management is the key - closely aligned with good commercial practice and
> sound financial common-sense.
> We see far too many potentially good CR stations where the volunteer
> (awful word) aspect effectively manages the station - and a camel/committee
> situation is the result.
>
>
>
> Ian Hickling
>
> Partner
>
> <http://www.transplanuk.com/>
>
> *Office: 016 3557 8435  (07h to 22h GTS)*
>
> *Car: 075 3098 0115 (only responds when driving)*
>
> *6 Horn Street, Compton, NEWBURY, RG20 6QS*
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> *From:* cma-l-bounces at mailman.commedia.org.uk <
> cma-l-bounces at mailman.commedia.org.uk> on behalf of Lucinda Guy <
> chair at commedia.org.uk>
> *Sent:* 15 December 2016 19:54
> *To:* cma-l at mailman.commedia.org.uk
> *Subject:* [cma-l] It's your CMA! Talk to us.
>
>
>
> Dear All,
>
> Like many of us, I was saddened to hear the announcement that two
> community radio stations switch off their transmitters this week. This is a
> tragedy for the residents of both Spalding and Cheddar, who have lost vital
> opportunities to have their voices heard, and experience the joy of
> community radio as both participants and listeners.
>
>
>
> The CMA very much wants to help in these situations - but we can't unless
> we know what is going on. As someone put it to me today, we don't have an
> alarm in the CMA batcave every time a station is in trouble.
>
>
>
> It may sound obvious, but please let us know how things are for you. For
> example, if someone has made a formal complaint to Ofcom and you may be in
> breach of your licence, how you handle the next steps can make a huge
> difference. If you find yourself in this situation, phone the CMA office
> straight away, or email Bill and ask his advice. He has helped many
> licensed stations through these kind of problems..
>
>
>
> If your issue is volunteers then please contact me directly, using the
> chair at commedia.org.uk email and I will find time to have a chat. Whether
> you have too many volunteers, not enough, or just the wrong kind, there
> will be a way through the situation.
>
>
>
> While I'm here I'd like to congratulate both Tulip Radio and Pulse on
> their achievements over the years. I'm sure that their impact on their
> local communities will have lasting effects, even if they are not still
> around to broadcast about it. I wish all their staff, directors and
> volunteers well with whatever they do next.
>
>
>
> Lucinda
>
>
>
> --
>
> *Lucinda Guy*
> * Chair, Community Media Association*
>
>
>
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