[cma-l] cma-l Digest, Vol 78, Issue 69
James Cridland
james at cridland.net
Wed Oct 28 17:18:40 GMT 2015
I once saw a very grumpy man from Ofcom talking about pirate radio at a
TechCon in Salford.
He claimed that we were minutes away from disaster when a pirate radio
station interfered with aircraft; but I couldn't find a single
corroborating source. He claimed that pirate radio regularly caused
tremendous problems for the emergency services. I can't find any source for
this either.
Indeed, the only source I can actually find for radio causing trouble for
emergency services is when a listener to Radio 4, in a boat, managed to
flick his microphone on to the emergency channel and rebroadcast The
Archers on it.
While they do interfere with licensed broadcasters, I think much of the
emergency "peril" stories are FUD.
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On 28 Oct 2015 4:14 p.m., "fantasy office" <office at fantasyradio.co.uk>
wrote:
> Community radio as we know it - and Pirate Radio as we now know it, seem
> very different things.
> Remember though, Pirate Radio simply means broadcasting without a licence.
> (i.e. illegally)
>
> Over twenty years ago, a certain pirate radio station was running for
> several years. It certainly provided a service to the community and was
> very popular. It was 'busted' a few times, but managed to continue, because
> it had the support of the Community. Eventually, the station applied to the
> IBA and was granted a licence. It continued to broadcast in much the same
> way, under the same name, and continues to this day.
>
> Not all pirate radio is bad. And just 'cos you don't have a licence
> doesn't mean you have to play hip hop and Rap.
>
> If it was not so difficult to do, I'm sure more pirates would like to
> become legal. Ofcom could do a lot more to embrace the talented individuals
> who would really like to broadcast, and open up new avenues to make it
> happen.
>
> Phil Dawson
> FANTASY RADIO 97FM
> Devizes,
> Wiltshire.
>
>
> On 10/28/2015 3:52 PM, cma-l-request at mailman.commedia.org.uk wrote:
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>> 1. Re: Pirate Radio (Canalside's The Thread)
>>
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>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 1
>> Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2015 15:48:53 -0000
>> From: "Canalside's The Thread" <office at thethread.org.uk>
>> To: "'The Community Media Association Discussion List'"
>> <cma-l at mailman.commedia.org.uk>
>> Subject: Re: [cma-l] Pirate Radio
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>> Richard
>>
>>
>> I'm 56, I vaguely remember Amy . I always thought it was Ammy ????? or
>> pronounced Ammy ... not many around in the early 80's I'm not a
>> Londoner
>> though.
>>
>>
>> Hmm ? I just don't think you can be both Community and Pirate
>> somehow ?
>> the concepts don't mix. Or at least they don't under the 2001/2002
>> Community
>> Radio Bill I could be wrong though ?
>>
>>
>> Admiral Horatio Wright
>>
>>
>> _____
>>
>> From: cma-l-bounces at mailman.commedia.org.uk
>> [mailto:cma-l-bounces at mailman.commedia.org.uk] On Behalf Of Richard
>> Hilton
>> Sent: 28 October 2015 13:47
>> To: The Community Media Association Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: [cma-l] Pirate Radio
>>
>>
>> Community Pirate Radio? Those of us of a certain age may well remember
>> Radio Amy that used to broadcast to London in (I think!) the early 80's.
>> The first example of a Community Pirate Station.
>>
>>
>>
>> Richard
>>
>>
>>
>> From: cma-l-bounces at mailman.commedia.org.uk
>> [mailto:cma-l-bounces at mailman.commedia.org.uk] On Behalf Of Canalside's
>> The
>> Thread
>> Sent: 28 October 2015 12:24
>> To: 'The Community Media Association Discussion List'
>> Subject: Re: [cma-l] Pirate Radio
>>
>>
>> Ahoy thar ! :-)
>>
>>
>> Community Pirate Station ???? that's a new one on me Derrick ? I
>> could be wrong, but the Pirates I have heard as I have travelled around
>> the
>> Country tend to focused on one style of music or one style of banter or a
>> topic of promotion ... it is very rare they make programming for the
>> Community as a whole ?? however, as I have said before, I could have
>> missed something or been tuned into the wrong ones.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> When we first started there was a place in Tytherington near the old Rugby
>> club grounds where for an area of about 1000 yards square you could
>> clearly
>> pick up a Pirate Station. This is about 8 years ago and the Station was
>> actually quite proud at being a Pirate (they boasted on-air) the
>> music
>> was basically all hip hop and rap and nothing else ... there was bad
>> language as well in a lot of the material. I listened for about half an
>> hour
>> and then they disappeared .. I was as high as a kite by the time I'd
>> finished LOL this was on a Sunday morning. As a matter of
>> interest
>> I went back the following Sunday but they weren't there.
>>
>> As it happens I was refereeing an under 18's football match about three
>> weeks later on a Saturday morning. The rugby pitch is now a footie pitch
>> hence why I was there . and hey presto . they were there again
>> another
>> blast of hip hop and rap. They never mentioned frequency though. Even
>> though
>> I assumed they were on 102.8 or 102.75 ??? I returned again on the
>> Sunday morning and they were there again ! I tried Mon - Fri
>> they were not there ... and I did try again after that. I have never heard
>> them since apart from as I say a few pecks here and there on a weekend. I
>> don't know, I am only guessing, but it could be them ????
>>
>>
>>
>> Saturday and a Sunday we always tend to have a few more '''peck peck peck
>> pecking''' sounds on our FM Service .... Ofcom have confirmed that it is
>> possibly Pirate activity Yarrr ! ahoy thar !
>>
>>
>> And yes, please come onto the message board and say what you feel from the
>> heart. Replies to the comments ought to be the same without getting
>> personal
>> or accusing someone of having a rant.
>>
>>
>> As I have said though, if folk do rant it's no wonder with the debacle
>> that we have each had to go through, some worse than others.
>>
>>
>> Nick Pugwash :-)
>>
>>
>> _____
>>
>> From: cma-l-bounces at mailman.commedia.org.uk
>> [mailto:cma-l-bounces at mailman.commedia.org.uk] On Behalf Of Derrick
>> Francis
>> Sent: 27 October 2015 19:57
>> To: The Community Media Association Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: [cma-l] Pirate Radio
>>
>>
>> I for one applaud Roy for his honest comments, sometime people forget how
>> things started....
>>
>>
>> This year Gloucester FM has been celebrating 15 years of broadcasting, GFM
>> 96.6 was born after the "community pirate station" was shut down. Once
>> they
>> were taken of air by the authorities it soon became clear, that the
>> station
>> had to be replaced, the commercial station and the BBC were not playing
>> the
>> music or interacting with community that GFM serves
>>
>>
>> I have had many inquiries about applying for a community radio license
>> from
>> people who run pirate stations, while its their aspiration to be legal,
>> what
>> we legal station have to go through to continue broadcasting has put them
>> off and will continue to put them off until funding is available to help
>> community radio station with their core running costs
>>
>>
>> Roy, thank you for hiring us the kit for our first RSL broadcast in
>> October
>> 2000, without you. we might not be here now, I for one will not forget how
>> the "community pirate station" inspired me to get GFM on air legally
>> Emoji
>> <https://a.gfx.ms/Emoji_0263A.png>
>>
>> Derrick Francis
>>
>> Chairperson
>>
>>
>> Gloucester FM 96.6 (GFM 96.6) www.gloucesterfm.com
>> <http://www.gloucesterfm.com/> & Android & Iphone
>>
>> The Trust Centre
>>
>> Conduit Street
>>
>> Gloucester
>>
>> GL1 4UX
>>
>>
>> _____
>>
>> From: office at thethread.org.uk
>> To: cma-l at mailman.commedia.org.uk
>> Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2015 15:34:11 +0000
>> Subject: Re: [cma-l] Pirate Radio
>>
>> Interesting Robb
>>
>>
>> The sad thing in all of this is that when I write something like this and
>> it
>> gets placed on the message board there always seems to be some
>> condescending
>> clot who says ''he's having a rant'' I think the first thing
>> everyone needs to learn in Community Radio is that if someone says
>> something
>> with a bit of fire and passion behind it, it doesn't mean they are having
>> a
>> rant.
>>
>>
>> I sussed all this nonsense many Moons ago. The ones that write ''rant''
>> are
>> actually in disagreement and they feel that writing that someone is
>> ranting
>> in someway takes the sting out the tail. Maybe it does, maybe it doesn't .
>> ?? it certainly doesn't wash with me.
>>
>>
>> I think it is nice and refreshing to see Roy and Robb expressing their
>> opinions. I agree with some of it and disagree with other bits, but I
>> certainly know where they are coming from.
>>
>> I now await patiently for Senor Plonker to put his/her three-pennith worth
>> in and accuse both Roy and Robb for having a rant. If it is the case ...
>> then RANT AWAY I SAY
>>
>>
>> Well done
>>
>>
>> Nick
>>
>>
>> _____
>>
>> From: cma-l-bounces at mailman.commedia.org.uk
>> [mailto:cma-l-bounces at mailman.commedia.org.uk] On Behalf Of
>> robbeden at madasafish.com
>> Sent: 26 October 2015 22:04
>> To: 'The Community Media Association Discussion List'
>> Subject: Re: [cma-l] Pirate Radio
>>
>>
>> For someone who has been on the receiving end of bad judgement by the GPO,
>> Radio Authority & Ofcom may I congratulate Roy for his frank assessment.
>> Pirate Radio has made a significant contribution to broadcasting in this
>> country & it's sad that politicians don't recognise it. Pirate Radio , not
>> the BBC, has been the backbone of innovation and others have followed.
>> Luckily we now have the internet where freedom of expression & creative
>> thought is at the forefront. The BBC has a fantastic opportunity to
>> embrace
>> the spirit of pirate radio through the numerous community stations that
>> are
>> still broadcasting but I fear that they will not grasp the nettle.
>> Meanwhile, out here in the Cotswolds, our community internet radio station
>> is coming up to its eighth anniversary, all done without the help of Ofcom
>> or the BBC, we do it efficiently & cost effectively.
>>
>>
>> Meanwhile the plodding bureaucrats continue to drag community radio down &
>> the Community Media Association sits by whilst the industry burns.
>>
>>
>> The sector needs a complete rethink, it needs support from Ofcom, less
>> interference & more praise for the sterling work that the thousands of
>> volunteers put in each week.
>>
>>
>> Robb Eden
>>
>>
>> From: cma-l-bounces at mailman.commedia.org.uk
>> [mailto:cma-l-bounces at mailman.commedia.org.uk] On Behalf Of Roy Parsons
>> Sent: 26 October 2015 15:41
>> To: Alan Fransman <cma-l at mailman.commedia.org.uk>
>> Subject: [cma-l] Pirate Radio
>>
>>
>> I don't really comment on this forum and this may be my last post.
>>
>> Community radio and pirate radio are forever entwined.
>>
>>
>> How did Broadcast warehouse ,SBS and Radica your transmission providers
>> get
>> going????
>>
>> Could I possibly suggest that pirate radio may have been involved in their
>> transmitter testing and development
>>
>> If you don't understand this comment then then you have no concept of the
>> evolution of this sector of the broadcast industry and how it has got you
>> on
>> air today.
>>
>> You should be grateful for Pirate radio or you would not have a UK made
>> transmitter.
>>
>>
>> DJ Uncle has been walking around with a Police tracking bracelet on his
>> ankle after the last arrest.
>>
>> The Police supported his station as did local politicians. But WHY because
>> it acted as as mouthpiece to calm local flash points.
>>
>> He has tried many times to go legit and has no chance in hell. He is not
>> your enemy he should be applaulded for his work at great personal cost and
>> you should work together.
>>
>>
>> Don't get sniffy with all pirates KISS and XFM where there once.
>>
>>
>> I would like to state I have not been part of pirate radio, mainly
>> because I
>> had day jobs in my early 20's with the BBC, Radio Luxemberg 208 and Soho
>> production studios,
>>
>> So I could hear my recordings on the radio every night anyway.
>>
>> What disturbs me is a lack of understanding of cultures other than your
>> own
>> comfort zones.
>>
>> A pirate is just this weeks illegal immigrant as far as you all seem to be
>> concerned.
>>
>> Don't forget illegal is a moving target, it was illegal to be GAY not so
>> long ago.
>>
>>
>> Thanks and goodnight.
>>
>> Roy Parsons
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