[cma-l] cma-l Digest, Vol 78, Issue 69

[Canalside's The Thread]

Phil

The reason I mentioned Hip Hop and Rap was because that is what they were
playing .... if they had been playing Mel Torme, Julie London, Frank Sinatra
and Cleo Laine I would have said so and possibly kept tuned in     LOL
This wasn't a dig at H/H & R  ....  in fact it wasn't a dig at anyone. I was
merely making observations.

Another observation and food for thought is, would it be correct to give
licences to people who have been illegal above those who have been running
legit RSL's and Internet services ???       personally I think not, however
there could be an argument 'somewhere' ??  that says the opposite       I
honestly do not know ?

Are Pirates given licences because it's less mither than chasing a Transit
Van round the outskirts of Nottingham or Birmingham ..... it all seems odd
to me especially when you look at the simple straight forward things we have
asked for and got a ''nope''

It's all the Poacher turned Gamekeeper argument in a way. We had to wait
nearly 4 years for our licence .. I'm sure a lot would have been fuming if
we had been turned down and it had been given to a Pirate Operation.

When you say all Pirates are not bad. To be honest, they neither bad nor
good .... that's not the point ... the point is they are illegal.

It's defo a conversation starter. Remember that Ofcom have had / got folk
working for them who were once Pirate Operators .... Poacher turned
Gamekeeper indeed   LOL

Shiver mee timbers

Nick Hook

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Subject: Re: [cma-l] cma-l Digest, Vol 78, Issue 69

Community radio as we know it - and Pirate Radio as we now know it, seem 
very different things.
Remember though, Pirate Radio simply means broadcasting without a 
licence. (i.e. illegally)

Over twenty years ago, a certain pirate radio station was running for 
several years. It certainly provided a service to the community and was 
very popular. It was 'busted' a few times, but managed to continue, 
because it had the support of the Community. Eventually, the station 
applied to the IBA and was granted a licence. It continued to broadcast 
in much the same way, under the same name, and continues to this day.

Not all pirate radio is bad. And just 'cos you don't have a licence 
doesn't mean you have to play hip hop and Rap.

If it was not so difficult to do, I'm sure more pirates would like to 
become legal. Ofcom could do a lot more to embrace the talented 
individuals who would really like to broadcast, and open up new avenues 
to make it happen.

Phil Dawson
FANTASY RADIO 97FM
Devizes,
Wiltshire.


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> Richard
>
>   
>
> I'm 56, I vaguely remember Amy . I always thought it was Ammy ????? or
> pronounced Ammy ... not many around in the early 80's    I'm not a
Londoner
> though.
>
>   
>
> Hmm ?      I just don't think you can be both Community and Pirate somehow
?
> the concepts don't mix. Or at least they don't under the 2001/2002
Community
> Radio Bill       I could be wrong though ?
>
>   
>
> Admiral Horatio Wright
>
>   
>
>    _____
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> From: cma-l-bounces at mailman.commedia.org.uk
> [mailto:cma-l-bounces at mailman.commedia.org.uk] On Behalf Of Richard Hilton
> Sent: 28 October 2015 13:47
> To: The Community Media Association Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [cma-l] Pirate Radio
>
>   
>
> Community Pirate Radio?  Those of us of a certain age may well remember
> Radio Amy that used to broadcast to London in (I think!) the early 80's.
> The first example of a Community Pirate Station.
>
>   
>
>   
>
> Richard
>
>   
>
>   
>
> From: cma-l-bounces at mailman.commedia.org.uk
> [mailto:cma-l-bounces at mailman.commedia.org.uk] On Behalf Of Canalside's
The
> Thread
> Sent: 28 October 2015 12:24
> To: 'The Community Media Association Discussion List'
> Subject: Re: [cma-l] Pirate Radio
>
>   
>
> Ahoy thar !     :-)
>
>   
>
> Community Pirate Station ????     that's a new one on me Derrick ?    I
> could be wrong, but the Pirates I have heard as I have travelled around
the
> Country tend to focused on one style of music or one style of banter or a
> topic of promotion ... it is very rare they make programming for the
> Community as a whole ??     however, as I have said before, I could have
> missed something or been tuned into the wrong ones.
>
>   
>
>   
>
>   
>
> When we first started there was a place in Tytherington near the old Rugby
> club grounds where for an area of about 1000 yards square you could
clearly
> pick up a Pirate Station. This is about 8 years ago and the Station was
> actually quite proud at being a Pirate (they boasted on-air)      the
music
> was basically all hip hop and rap and nothing else ... there was bad
> language as well in a lot of the material. I listened for about half an
hour
> and then they disappeared .. I was as high as a kite by the time I'd
> finished    LOL       this was on a Sunday morning. As a matter of
interest
> I went back the following Sunday but they weren't there.
>
> As it happens I was refereeing an under 18's football match about three
> weeks later on a Saturday morning. The rugby pitch is now a footie pitch
> hence why I was there . and hey presto . they were there again
another
> blast of hip hop and rap. They never mentioned frequency though. Even
though
> I assumed they were on 102.8 or 102.75  ???        I returned again on the
> Sunday morning and they were there again !         I tried Mon - Fri
> they were not there ... and I did try again after that. I have never heard
> them since apart from as I say a few pecks here and there on a weekend. I
> don't know, I am only guessing, but it could be them ????
>
>   
>
>   
>
> Saturday and a Sunday we always tend to have a few more '''peck peck peck
> pecking''' sounds on our FM Service .... Ofcom have confirmed that it is
> possibly Pirate activity              Yarrr !    ahoy thar !
>
>   
>
> And yes, please come onto the message board and say what you feel from the
> heart. Replies to the comments ought to be the same without getting
personal
> or accusing someone of having a rant.
>
>   
>
> As I have said though, if folk do rant     it's no wonder with the debacle
> that we have each had to go through, some worse than others.
>
>   
>
> Nick Pugwash   :-)
>
>   
>
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> From: cma-l-bounces at mailman.commedia.org.uk
> [mailto:cma-l-bounces at mailman.commedia.org.uk] On Behalf Of Derrick
Francis
> Sent: 27 October 2015 19:57
> To: The Community Media Association Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [cma-l] Pirate Radio
>
>   
>
> I for one applaud Roy for his honest comments, sometime people forget how
> things started....
>
>   
>
> This year Gloucester FM has been celebrating 15 years of broadcasting, GFM
> 96.6 was born after the "community pirate station" was shut down. Once
they
> were taken of air by the authorities it soon became clear, that the
station
> had to be replaced, the commercial station and the BBC were not playing
the
> music or interacting with community that GFM serves
>
>   
>
> I have had many inquiries about applying for a community radio license
from
> people who run pirate stations, while its their aspiration to be legal,
what
> we legal station have to go through to continue broadcasting has put them
> off and will continue to put them off until funding is available to help
> community radio station with their core running costs
>
>   
>
> Roy, thank you for hiring us the kit for our first RSL broadcast in
October
> 2000, without you. we might not be here now, I for one will not forget how
> the "community pirate station" inspired me to get GFM on air legally
Emoji
> <https://a.gfx.ms/Emoji_0263A.png>
>
> Derrick Francis
>
> Chairperson
>
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>
> Gloucester FM 96.6 (GFM 96.6) www.gloucesterfm.com
> <http://www.gloucesterfm.com/>  & Android & Iphone
>
> The Trust Centre
>
> Conduit Street
>
> Gloucester
>
> GL1 4UX
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> From: office at thethread.org.uk
> To: cma-l at mailman.commedia.org.uk
> Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2015 15:34:11 +0000
> Subject: Re: [cma-l] Pirate Radio
>
> Interesting Robb
>
>   
>
> The sad thing in all of this is that when I write something like this and
it
> gets placed on the message board there always seems to be some
condescending
> clot who says     ''he's having a rant''        I think the first thing
> everyone needs to learn in Community Radio is that if someone says
something
> with a bit of fire and passion behind it, it doesn't mean they are having
a
> rant.
>
>   
>
> I sussed all this nonsense many Moons ago. The ones that write ''rant''
are
> actually in disagreement and they feel that writing that someone is
ranting
> in someway takes the sting out the tail. Maybe it does, maybe it doesn't .
> ??     it certainly doesn't wash with me.
>
>   
>
> I think it is nice and refreshing to see Roy and Robb expressing their
> opinions. I agree with some of it and disagree with other bits, but I
> certainly know where they are coming from.
>
> I now await patiently for Senor Plonker to put his/her three-pennith worth
> in and accuse both Roy and Robb for having a rant. If it is the case ...
> then RANT AWAY I SAY
>
>   
>
> Well done
>
>   
>
> Nick
>
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> From: cma-l-bounces at mailman.commedia.org.uk
> [mailto:cma-l-bounces at mailman.commedia.org.uk] On Behalf Of
> robbeden at madasafish.com
> Sent: 26 October 2015 22:04
> To: 'The Community Media Association Discussion List'
> Subject: Re: [cma-l] Pirate Radio
>
>   
>
> For someone who has been on the receiving end of bad judgement by the GPO,
> Radio Authority & Ofcom may I congratulate Roy for his frank assessment.
> Pirate Radio has made a significant contribution to broadcasting in this
> country & it's sad that politicians don't recognise it. Pirate Radio , not
> the BBC, has been the backbone of innovation and others have followed.
> Luckily we now have the internet where freedom of expression & creative
> thought is at the forefront. The BBC has a fantastic opportunity to
embrace
> the spirit of pirate radio through the numerous community stations that
are
> still broadcasting but I fear that they will not grasp the nettle.
> Meanwhile, out here in the Cotswolds, our community internet radio station
> is coming up to its eighth anniversary, all done without the help of Ofcom
> or the BBC, we do it efficiently & cost effectively.
>
>   
>
> Meanwhile the plodding bureaucrats continue to drag community radio down &
> the Community Media Association sits by whilst the industry burns.
>
>   
>
> The sector needs a complete rethink, it needs support from Ofcom, less
> interference & more praise for the sterling work that the thousands of
> volunteers put in each week.
>
>   
>
> Robb Eden
>
>   
>
> From: cma-l-bounces at mailman.commedia.org.uk
> [mailto:cma-l-bounces at mailman.commedia.org.uk] On Behalf Of Roy Parsons
> Sent: 26 October 2015 15:41
> To: Alan Fransman <cma-l at mailman.commedia.org.uk>
> Subject: [cma-l] Pirate Radio
>
>   
>
> I don't really comment on this forum and this may be my last post.
>
> Community radio and pirate radio are forever entwined.
>
>   
>
> How did Broadcast warehouse ,SBS and Radica your transmission providers
get
> going????
>
> Could I possibly suggest that pirate radio may have been involved in their
> transmitter testing and development
>
> If you don't understand this comment then then you have no concept of the
> evolution of this sector of the broadcast industry and how it has got you
on
> air today.
>
> You should be grateful for Pirate radio or you would not have a UK made
> transmitter.
>
>   
>
> DJ Uncle has been walking around with a Police tracking bracelet on his
> ankle after the last arrest.
>
> The Police supported his station as did local politicians. But WHY because
> it acted as as mouthpiece to calm local flash points.
>
> He has tried many times to go legit and has no chance in hell. He is not
> your enemy he should be applaulded for his work at great personal cost and
> you should work together.
>
>   
>
> Don't get sniffy with all pirates KISS and XFM where there once.
>
>   
>
> I would like to state I have not been part of pirate radio, mainly because
I
> had day jobs in my early 20's with the BBC, Radio Luxemberg 208 and Soho
> production studios,
>
> So I could hear my recordings on the radio every night anyway.
>
> What disturbs me is a lack of understanding of cultures other than your
own
> comfort zones.
>
> A pirate is just this weeks illegal immigrant as far as you all seem to be
> concerned.
>
> Don't forget illegal is a moving target, it was illegal to be GAY not so
> long ago.
>
>   
>
> Thanks and goodnight.
>
> Roy Parsons
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