[cma-l] Review of the approach to community radioKey Commitments
Canalside's The Thread
office at thethread.org.uk
Fri Oct 16 17:40:49 BST 2015
Thing is Ian
.we dont want a 100 watts, we just need the transmitter
shifting ½ half a mile towards Macc, and Macclesfield putting officially (as
a whole) on the licence.
Without Macc we are dead as a dodo ..weve tried all the arguments and keep
hitting the buffers. Of course, we are aware that our coverage in certain
areas of Rainow and Kerridge are a bit dodgy, so using these as the leverage
may work and possibly would. I am fairly certain Ofcom would allow us to
move it ½ half a mile. But alas, that isnt the point and we shouldnt have
to resort to playing silly games all because someone cant sign something
off at the DCMS.
As per my previous e-mail
Commercial Radio seem to be able to pick and
choose, swap and change whenever it suits and within a timeline of about 10
weeks
as for us it takes 4 years and a load of aggro and arguing. Its
pathetic !
Apologies to everyone and you have all possibly heard enough, but these are
my feelings and my thoughts and I aint changing them as I believe we have a
valid case.
A mistake was made at the outset, does it really matter whether it was our
fault / my fault / Ofcoms fault / DCMS fault / Uncle Tom Cobbleys fault ??
no it doesnt
there is a slight problem and it can be easily rectified
without affecting anyone
. But it is easier to make excuses, and that is
the crux of the matter, just the same as with the restrictions
they are
excuses, thats all.
Anyway
have a good weekend everyone
Nick
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[mailto:cma-l-bounces at mailman.commedia.org.uk] On Behalf Of Ian Hickling
Sent: 16 October 2015 16:06
To: The Community Media Association Discussion List
Subject: [cma-l] Review of the approach to community radioKey Commitments
Yeah - you say that about the 25W transmitter Nick - but as I've pointed out
just once or twice before - 37 out of the current 232 CR stations on air
have convinced Ofcom that they need more than that - and have got it.
100W is not uncommon - one has 850W!
The time to do it is when you get your frequency and power allocation -
after that it gets much harder - but it's still been done.
You have to present an argument which says that without the right power
allocation you cannot run a viable business.
Ian Hickling
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From: office at thethread.org.uk
To: cma-l at mailman.commedia.org.uk
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2015 12:47:47 +0100
Subject: Re: [cma-l] Review of the approach to community radioKey
Commitments
Richard et al
I have submitted the rant as some in our fraternity will of course call it
(I think not) all I am is merely a person who is sick to death of going
around in a circle for 9 long years arguing and debating the same old
debacle on a ground hog day basis. Commercial Radio influencing decisions
and poking their conks into a project that has NOTHING at all to do with
them. I dont interfere with them but they have influence on what we do.
They seem to be able to have power boosts, change programming and key
commitments at the drop of a hat and yet were trying to work in a straight
jacket and jump through hoops with only a quarter of the resources.
Ill tell you the biggest restriction we all/each have A 25 WATT
TRANSMITTER ! we dont need anymore restrictions, that alone is
enough. Were trying to provide a service to people and for people who cant
hear us ??? and then they put restrictions on us who thought
that one up ? a madman !??
I try when possible to ad a bit of humour into the situation because if we
didnt laugh wed go bonkers. Some would argue I already have LOL
For the record, the submission was made clearly saying that I dont care who
reads it. I have long gone past all of that /confidentiality nonsense
what you see is what you get, like it or lump it. Too much pussy-footying
around, being walked all over, we need to stand up and be counted with a bit
more thrust and determination. Remember that most of the comments coming
back having a pop at me are from the Im alright Jack brigade
Under the confidentiality section I have written announce it to the
World my name is on it, so we dont have Mr Anon or Mrs pseudonym
facebook or Mr AKA Twitter
..stand up and be counted.
I notice others on the message board who also place posts that are quite
forthright, I know quite a few of these folk, they are fine
. Theyre just
fed up with the going round in circles as well. Then of course theres the
silent majority. I know this because they contact me and tell me
. They
dont want the aggro so dont get roped in
they still support the
sentiment. So let us not underestimate the will to overcome.
I will make my statement one more time. Yes, we here at Canalside did
understand the rules and implications at the outset (we didnt agree with
them, but hey, such is life) what we DID NOT EXPECT THOUGH, is to be
arguing about the same things 12 years down the line and listening to hot
air coming from Ministers saying how much they support Community Radio
do something about it then.
Ill try to copy and paste
.(copy and rant) :-)
Restrictions = Get Shot of the Lot
Regulate the spend and not the earn .. this way there would be technically a
limit (it would remain not-for-profit) money earned would have to be
re-invested into the project and there is an element of protection for
Commercial Radio
Key Commitments ------- most of these were written (me included) with all
good intentions .. but in reality some not achievable. They contained items
that ticked boxes, wouldnt offend commercial radio and looked fluffy and
nice
. I was cringing whilst writing them as I would imagine many others
were. We were being pushed down a road that we didnt want to go down by the
way the rules have been laid out.
The final straw for me is seeing people being hauled over the coals for
completely trivial matters and words like investigation in breach etc
being attached to that Station. Completely unacceptable.
Setting the Bar high and at least avin a go should be commended, not
ridiculed if you fall slightly short. This is obviously one of the reasons
why this consultation has come about .however, like with everything else
it ought to have been done 3 years ago when folk like me and others saw the
warning lights flashing. It would possibly have saved me in total about a
month of my life off the e-mail and phone.
I stick by the word I first mentioned 8 years ago debacle I think
this was the word that upset one or two as I was on the receiving end of a
lecture. It of course went straight over my head.
Of course life is about opinions, some will agree, some will disagree
.but
one thing is for sure, if you do nothing about it, dont get involved, dont
roll your sleeves up, you will forever be trodden on.
Time to cut-loose and let Community Radio really flourish.
By the way, read the comments from 3 years ago re:-TV
.. correct
again. It was never going to work and the money ought to have been put into
Community Radio. Wed have a descent Pot, Commercial Radio would be
protected (theyd like that) and wed only need to rummage through a few
adverts and everyones a happy bunny.
I cant remember the Minister at the time (Jeremy Hunt possibly?) but my
exact words to him were dont you think you ought to be sorting out
Community Radio first, before mIthering with Community TV?
Ive virtually covered the entry, but I send it over
Love you all xxx keep on truckin
Sir Hamster Wheel-Wright [University of Pott Shrigley]
By the way
I think Ofcom have read it as there has been correspondence
this morning .and I reckon its food for thought. My command of English
isnt good & sadly I didnt get A Level or O Level English as you can see
. The message is clear though and thats what matters.
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[mailto:cma-l-bounces at mailman.commedia.org.uk] On Behalf Of Richard Hilton
Sent: 16 October 2015 09:26
To: The Community Media Association Discussion List
Subject: Re: [cma-l] Review of the approach to community radioKey
Commitments
Glad you have done this. Is it possible to share your submission as a guide
and encouragement to others to get involved in this vitally important
consultation?
Richard
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[mailto:cma-l-bounces at mailman.commedia.org.uk] On Behalf Of Canalside's The
Thread
Sent: 15 October 2015 19:35
To: 'The Community Media Association Discussion List'
Subject: Re: [cma-l] Review of the approach to community radio Key
Commitments
Done and Dusted !
Seek under the headline/title ---- not pussy-footying around [part
1 hot under the collar] [sub clause 4 havent we been here 20 times
before?] [sub section 2b seeing is believing] [clause 5 its
about time]
Sir Nicholas Henry Hamster Wheel-Wright [Professor of Community Radio
Economics] [University of Pott Shrigley]
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[mailto:cma-l-bounces at mailman.commedia.org.uk] On Behalf Of CMA-L
Sent: 15 October 2015 17:35
To: cma-l at commedia.org.uk
Subject: [cma-l] Review of the approach to community radio Key Commitments
Community radio services broadcasting on FM or AM provide social gain and
other community benefits on a not-for-profit basis.
Each station is required to provide the service described in its licence,
which is based on the proposals it made during the application process for
the licence.
These service descriptions recorded in community radio licences are called
Key Commitments.
This Ofcom consultation seeks views on a proposal to streamline and simplify
the Key Commitments.
This will free up community radio stations, enabling them to focus on
serving their target communities, adapt better to the changing needs of
those communities, and deliver social gain.
Ofcom invites written comments on the questions raised in this consultation,
to be submitted by 5pm on 21 October 2015. Ofcom strongly prefers to receive
responses in electronic format and their web form will allow you to indicate
your data protection preferences and send your views to the team responsible
for this consultation.
http://stakeholders.ofcom.org.uk/consultations/key-commitments/
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