[cma-l] Ofcom and Tomorrow

Ian Hickling transplanfm at hotmail.com
Thu Jul 2 12:20:21 BST 2015


Ah - so that's what the words meant - thank you Alan.
I think all your points below are pretty obvious.That's why I wrote that CR taking over from BBC Local is not going to happen - but the two platforms could work well together - and in a few locations are doing so already.

Ian Hickling
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Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2015 11:38:16 +0100
From: alan.coote at 5digital.co.uk
To: cma-l at mailman.commedia.org.uk
Subject: Re: [cma-l] Ofcom and Tomorrow

Ian,
I’m pointing out the obvious, that there are orders of magnitude difference in skills and resources between BBC radio and your average community station. 
While I’ve worked with people at the BBC with no discernible talent, the majority have been exceptionally good. They have to be to keep their jobs. The talent pool in community radio is smaller. Which is not to the detriment of the sector, stations or people, it’s just the way it is.
For community stations to offer a credible alternative or replacement to BBC radio they need to demonstrate they too have enough skilled people who are ready willing and able.  
As I’m sure you already know, companies look at market barriers to entry. If they are too high and you can’t partner, then you’ll try to produce an alternative which you can afford. 
The community radio sector isn’t geared up and also by definition shouldn’t be trying to replace BBC Radio, it should partner or provide an alternative. Kind RegardsAlan Email - alan.coote at 5digital.co.ukPhone - 0800 949 6655Mobile - 07801 518858Twitter - @TheAlanCooteWeb - http://www.5digital.co.uk

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Date:  Wednesday, 1 July 2015 15:20
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Subject:  [cma-l] Ofcom and Tomorrow

Maybe it's me Alan - but I'm sorry - I don't understand "....the sum of the spare capacity of a dozen community radio stations couldn’t properly resource the output ...."Could you expand on that please?

Ian Hickling
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Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2015 13:51:28 +0100
From: alan.coote at 5digital.co.uk
To: cma-l at mailman.commedia.org.uk
Subject: Re: [cma-l] Ofcom and Tomorrow

An interesting idea however I struggle to see how the even the sum of the spare capacity of a dozen community radio stations couldn’t properly resource the output of even one BBC local radio station.  
Wouldn’t a better approach be to building on the CMA / BBC MoU to get so many hours of local BBC radio airtime dedicated to community radio programmes? 
Good luck. 
Alan 
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Date:  Wednesday, 1 July 2015 09:20
To:  "cma-l at mailman.commedia.org.uk"
Subject:  Re: [cma-l] Ofcom and Tomorrow

Donald
Keep the idea of 'fraction of the cost' quiet! BBC Local Radio spends over £200 million (last time I looked). We can provide a much better service.

Tony: community media should encompass all forms of communication. 

To start with we need to create a small team - anyone willing please contact me. 

Then we can ask CMA Council if our project can work within the CMA. Then look at what grants/support/crowd funding is available to keep us in coffee and biscuits. Trevor Lockwood BSc FRSA
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        From: Tony Bailey <ravensound at pilgrimsound.co.uk>
 To: cma-l at mailman.commedia.org.uk 
 Sent: Tuesday, 30 June 2015, 14:27
 Subject: Re: [cma-l] Ofcom and Tomorrow
   

    One of the questions I've often asked
      is did we make a mistake back in the 80's in assuming that the
      only route for a truly local radio service was via the then IBA. 
      Our original 1970's community radio project was formed as a group
      to provide programming on the BBC "local" station.  The beeb of
      course had no intention of providing community radio (unless
      forced to by someone else doing it) and probably wouldn't have got
      involved in "local" radio either had it not been for the threat of
      ILR.  Against this background it is easy to see why the commercial
      route was thought by most people to be the only one worth
      pursuing.  It is something of a minor miracle that community radio
      exists at all when you look at the politics and vested interests
      that surround it.  While we are on the subject of the statutory
      services, I feel it should be pointed out that the national tv
      networks don't do very well in "local" news provision either, the
      tv local news we now pay for (a couple of stories and the footy),
      if you can find it in the schedules, is pretty poor in my opinion.
      
      Tony Bailey
      
      On 30/06/15 11:41, Donald Mack wrote:
    
    
      Hear hear.
      We can demonstrate how CR benefits all sectors and all for a
        fraction of the License Fee or its future equivalent.
       
      Sign me up
       
       
       
       
      On 29 June 2015 at 14:39 Trevor Lockwood
        <lockwood at btinternet.com> wrote:
        
        
          It's my belief
              that we should now develop a strategy for 2016 when the
              BBC Charter is up for renewal.
          
            
          It should
              present us for an excellent opportunity to argue our case
              to replace the present BBC local radio structure.
          
            
          We can present
              excellent arguments to support our case.
          
            
          I'd be happy
              to be part of a working party that put that strategy
              together.
          
            
          In the present
              and future climate within broadcasting this is the best
              opportunity we shall ever have to expand our range, and
              provide a truly local broadcasting network for this
              country.
           
           
          
            Trevor
                Lockwood BSc FRSA
              Tel/mobile: 01394 27032801394 270328,
              07746
                47418067746 471486
                www.debenradio.co.uk
              
            
             
            
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