[cma-l] Cat Among the Pigeons

Wed Jan 21 12:24:10 GMT 2015

Please can I write a short e-mail and say     ''common sense at last'' !
well said Pippa

I wish I had never suggested this now as many have taken it completely out
of context . also, if folk would rather me not throw my three-pennith in,
then that's fine by me, just say the words.

Please remember though, we have had a lot of people over the past 12 years
who have made a lot of bullets but fired none of them .. I make em (as do
others) and fire em' as do some others -----  from my research and meeting
people at MANY gatherings, my views and opinions are backed by the majority
and are glad that I and others on our message board and within our fabulous
fraternity stand up and say what's what.

We can of course join the other happy throngs if you so desire (we may have
to after next week)   the ones I keep reminding you of .. Those who do nowt'
and those season ticket holders of the ''I'm alright Jack'' club   I have no
time for them sorry to say.

Can I say a big thank you to those as well who actually don't get directly
involved but do say thank you for our input in the debates and actions .. I
am very grateful for that

Nick

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[mailto:cma-l-bounces at mailman.commedia.org.uk] On Behalf Of pippa
Sent: 20 January 2015 23:22
To: The Community Media Association Discussion List
Subject: Re: [cma-l] Cat Among the Pigeons

Hey chaps,   No-one is suggesting common imaging!

We all agree that our individual station sounds, with content carefully
curated for our local listeners, is what makes us stand apart from the big
guys.

We're just floating a few ideas, in the spirit of sharing and supporting
eachother.  We are discussing the idea of having one generic
ident/strapline, which stations can overlay with their own id in a local
voice. It would be just one of maybe 20 different idents a station uses.
Please be assured that no-one is suggesting a network / common sound or
anything else along those lines.

Thanks for your inputs though. The more we can share what works and what
doesn't, the better chance we will have of success and growth (whilst
acknowledging that we don't all have the same objectives).

Hope this clarifies things!

Pippa

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From: office <office at fantasyradio.co.uk> 
Date: 20/01/2015 22:20 (GMT+00:00) 
To: cma-l at mailman.commedia.org.uk 
Subject: [cma-l] Cat Among the Pigeons 

Terry! - the voice of Reason!

1. Whilst each presenter needs to develop his or her own style, it cannot be
to the detriment of the station. I was told years ago in no uncertain terms
that no presenter is bigger than the station.
It doesn't matter if a presenter doesn't get paid - if they volunteer  to do
a job, then it should be as binding an agreement as if money changes hands,
otherwise you lose control.

2. Its great to think stations are prepared to help each other with
equipment, ideas etc., but that must stay in the background. Individual
stations MUST stay individual. Common station imaging would throw us all
into the pit that commercial radio has become - and I like to think we're
better than that.

Nice one Terry.

Phil Dawson
FANTASY RADIO 97FM
DEVIZES 
Wiltshire

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From: Terry Doyle  <mailto:terrydoyle at nnbc.co.uk> <terrydoyle at nnbc.co.uk>

Hi

I have spent some time reading through some of the threads here and my
temperature is rising slowly as my anger threshold gets closer.  Two points!

*1.Presenters With Their Own Agenda?*

What are they doing on your station in the first place and more
importantly, why do you allow them to broadcast in the first place?

It doesn?t matter if they are volunteers! Just because you don?t pay them
does not give them the right to use your station to broadcast the little
radio station in their heads.

Solution! Get them to sign a voluntary agreement that says they follow the
station format/guidelines designed by you - The Station Manager (you have
got a written station/programmes format? don?t you?).

If they don?t sign this agreement, they don?t get within fifty yards of a
mic. If they do sign and break the rules then? you can wave goodbye and
replace them with someone who will follow station direction?simple!

Presenters on air with their own agenda = weak programme management.

*2. Common Station Imaging Across Community Radio*

NO NO NO.  We are NOT a network and when we start to think we are? we move
towards our own downfall!

Think individuality, creativity and innovation.

Terry Doyle

NNBC

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