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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Please can I write a short e-mail and
say ‘’common sense at last’’
! well said Pippa<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I wish I had never suggested this now as
many have taken it completely out of context … also, if folk would rather
me not throw my three-pennith in, then that’s fine by me, just say the
words.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Please remember though, we have had a lot
of people over the past 12 years who have made a lot of bullets but fired none
of them …. I make em (as do others) and fire em’ as do some others
----- from my research and meeting people at MANY gatherings, my views
and opinions are backed by the majority and are glad that I and others on our
message board and within our fabulous fraternity stand up and say what’s
what.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>We can of course join the other happy
throngs if you so desire (we may have to after next week) the ones
I keep reminding you of …. Those who do nowt’ and those season
ticket holders of the ‘’I’m alright Jack’’ club
I have no time for them sorry to say.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Can I say a big thank you to those as well
who actually don’t get directly involved but do say thank you for our
input in the debates and actions …… I am very grateful for that<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Nick<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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[mailto:cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>pippa<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 20 January 2015 23:22<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> The Community Media
Association Discussion List<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [cma-l] Cat Among the
Pigeons</span></font><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Hey chaps, No-one is suggesting common imaging!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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12.0pt'>We all agree that our individual station sounds, with content carefully
curated for our local listeners, is what makes us stand apart from the big
guys.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>We're just floating a few ideas, in the spirit of sharing and
supporting eachother. We are discussing the idea of having one generic
ident/strapline, which stations can overlay with their own id in a local voice.
It would be just one of maybe 20 different idents a station uses. Please
be assured that no-one is suggesting a network / common sound or anything else
along those lines.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Thanks for your inputs though. The more we can share what works and
what doesn't, the better chance we will have of success and growth (whilst
acknowledging that we don't all have the same objectives).<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Hope this clarifies things!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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-------- Original message --------<br>
From: office <office@fantasyradio.co.uk> <br>
Date: 20/01/2015 22:20 (GMT+00:00) <br>
To: cma-l@mailman.commedia.org.uk <br>
Subject: [cma-l] Cat Among the Pigeons <br>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Terry! - the voice of Reason!<br>
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1. Whilst each presenter needs to develop his or her own style, it cannot be to
the detriment of the station. I was told years ago in no uncertain terms that
no presenter is bigger than the station.<br>
It doesn't matter if a presenter doesn't get paid - if they volunteer to
do a job, then it should be as binding an agreement as if money changes hands,
otherwise you lose control.<br>
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2. Its great to think stations are prepared to help each other with equipment,
ideas etc., but that must stay in the background. Individual stations MUST stay
individual. Common station imaging would throw us all into the pit that
commercial radio has become - and I like to think we're better than that.<br>
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Nice one Terry.<br>
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Phil Dawson<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>FANTASY RADIO 97FM<br>
DEVIZES <br>
Wiltshire</span></b><br>
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On 20/01/2015 17:44, <a
href="mailto:cma-l-request@mailman.commedia.org.uk">cma-l-request@mailman.commedia.org.uk</a>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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cite="mid:mailman.525.1421775896.18813.cma-l@mailman.commedia.org.uk"
type=cite><pre wrap=""><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt'>Message: 3<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font size=2
face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2015 17:33:01 +0000<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>From: CMA-L <a
href="mailto:cma-l@commedia.org.uk" moz-do-not-send=true><cma-l@commedia.org.uk></a><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>To: <a
href="mailto:cma-l@commedia.org.uk" moz-do-not-send=true>cma-l@commedia.org.uk</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Subject: [cma-l] Cat Among The Pigeons...!<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Message-ID:<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> <a
href="mailto:CAG9ftO+PSVGij48VWSCj3LXVh2ew6GFDTi7ZsPrX5FMQpEHK2A@mail.gmail.com"
moz-do-not-send=true><CAG9ftO+PSVGij48VWSCj3LXVh2ew6GFDTi7ZsPrX5FMQpEHK2A@mail.gmail.com></a><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>---------- Forwarded message ----------<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>From: Terry Doyle <a
href="mailto:terrydoyle@nnbc.co.uk" moz-do-not-send=true><terrydoyle@nnbc.co.uk></a><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Hi<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>I have spent some time reading through some of the threads here and my<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>temperature is rising slowly as my anger threshold gets closer. Two points!<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>*1.Presenters With Their Own Agenda?*<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>What are they doing on your station in the first place and more<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>importantly, why do you allow them to broadcast in the first place?<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>It doesn?t matter if they are volunteers! Just because you don?t pay them<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>does not give them the right to use your station to broadcast the little<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>radio station in their heads.<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Solution! Get them to sign a voluntary agreement that says they follow the<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>station format/guidelines designed by you - The Station Manager (you have<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>got a written station/programmes format? don?t you?).<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>If they don?t sign this agreement, they don?t get within fifty yards of a<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>mic. If they do sign and break the rules then? you can wave goodbye and<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>replace them with someone who will follow station direction?simple!<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Presenters on air with their own agenda = weak programme management.<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>*2. Common Station Imaging Across Community Radio*<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>NO NO NO. We are NOT a network and when we start to think we are? we move<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>towards our own downfall!<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Think individuality, creativity and innovation.<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Terry Doyle<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>NNBC<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre></blockquote>
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