[cma-l] FW: Automation
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Sat Feb 28 11:54:26 GMT 2015
Dear All
Has anyone ever had the pleasure of using 'Dalet' ??? now there's a
system :-) In fairness, I haven't had a dabble with it for over 10 years
and most of the major tweaks on this type of software/hardware have been
done so reliability in the main is less of an issue (I think?)
I Presented using [Dalet] between 1997 - 1999 and then again 2001 - 2002
..there was a slight improvement on the second spell, but you certainly had
to be on your toes.
It used to fall over regularly, sometimes with a mind of its own it would
just stop ! but not show any faults. It would re-boot depending what side
of the bed it got out of that morning, and if it didn't want to re-boot,
then you were on cd's .... At least it drilled home the '''be prepared'''
ideology.
I always remember one show I did where the whole show ran completely adhoc.
You would push a button to start a song or sweeper and nothing would happen,
sometimes you would push it and something would happen, but you couldn't
hear anything. Then you would hear something but nothing is being indicated.
Sometimes, sweepers that hadn't played ten minutes earlier (maybe they'd
nipped off for a brew) would suddenly play in the middle of your link
(from 10 minutes earlier) AND you would hear it, as would the
listeners and the fader was down ! LOL
Now work that one out.
I always remember one day the Brekky Presenter Paul Allen had myself on-air
with him and the Big Wig was there from the Company (he is a big name but
I'm having a senior moment) (John somebody) >>???? Very big in Radio !
and he is sat watching and all of a sudden [Dalet] decides to throw one of
its classic wobblers .. But this is a classic wobbler almost like a Monty
Python sketch ...... Paul and myself dash out grab the cds and whilst I am
loading them in a special order, he goes to his magic cupboard and gets out
some of his cds. He comes charging into the Studio like a Bull in a China
shop, and just as he approaches the door John thingy bob opened the door.
There's a lip on the door at the bottom and he trips up and goes full
frontal .. all the cds go flying everywhere and too be honest we end up with
the proverbial egg on the proverbial.
The seriousness of the story is Big John got in his car and drove off
...''not to pleased'' the show went downhill rather quickly
...
I also remember a guy (Phillipe') I think who would spend more time in this
Country than in France trying to fix it. He would be making regular visits
on a 3 week cycle. He actually came from somewhere in France ??? he didn't
live here.
We had one major major major crash where it was virtually kaput for nearly a
week .. The Local Radio Company had taken over and it was bye bye blackbird
goodnight Vienna [Dalet] hello Enco-Dad
Nick
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[mailto:cma-l-bounces at mailman.commedia.org.uk] On Behalf Of Two Lochs Radio
Sent: 27 February 2015 16:31
To: radio at bayfm.co.uk; Darren Cullum; Ian Hickling; Geoff Rogers; cma-l
Subject: Re: [cma-l] Automation
One of our presenters, Mike Marwick, is a keen long-time user of Jazler, and
likes it. However, he is not running a 24x7 station on it, so can't comemnt
on that aspect. He tells me a short while ago he re-researched the subject
as his Jazler is a very old version, and the conclusion of the review was to
recommend RadioDJ <http://www.radiodj.ro/> . It's a free/donation package
and may also be worth a look.
Also worth noting if you do end up looking to spend similar money to Myriad
that there was also a very good non-profit discount for the high-end Enco
DAD system that brought its price way down. Don't know if they still have
that offer. There's also a wide range of low-cost basic automation systems
and utilities here <http://www.charliedavy.co.uk/shop.php> - don't know how
reliable they are though!
Incidentally, Mike produces two excellent 2-hour weekend shows for us
"Rock-n-Rol Saturday" available live or prerecorded and "On the Weekend" and
he'd be happy to invite more stations to the collection that already
broadcast these shows weekly.
Alex
----- Original Message -----
From: Bay Fm Radio <mailto:radio at bayfm.co.uk>
To: Darren Cullum <mailto:d.cullum at tonefm.co.uk> ; Ian
<mailto:transplanfm at hotmail.com> Hickling ; Geoff
<mailto:geoff at susyradio.com> Rogers ; cma-l <mailto:cma-l at commedia.org.uk>
Sent: Friday, February 27, 2015 3:00 PM
Subject: Re: [cma-l] Automation
Thank you all for your feedback.
I would also like to say that, I've used OTS since 2005; It's reliably is
superb and never once crashed in all that time and it's certainly NEVER
taken us air! - In fact it's so reliable my biggest fear is losing that
reliability. One very experienced colleague shared my views over its
reliability and fully understood why I would have second thoughts about
getting rid of it.
As for covering the cost of Myriad with ease through sponsorship, that's
fine providing you're allowed to use advertising and sponsorship, which
we're not. When we are that's a different matter that's if we are not capped
too much.
However; I would like to point out that I'm fully aware of Myriads
reputation; I was simply asking if anyone had used Jazler?
Anyone who's seen our set-up and asked for our advice in the past would know
that I would NEVER skimp on quality, I just can't justify the spend on
Myriad at the moment.
Thanks again.
Andy.
Bay Fm Radio
'Heart & Soul Of Your Community'
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Can I just back Ian up with this . . .
Having worked in the industry for over 20 years, I have used pretty much ALL
the big playout systems on the big stations I have worked on and there has
been NOTHING to compare with flexibility, ease of use and support etc The
way we have set everything up means we can do an OB from our mobile devices
if need be!
Yes, there is a cost, BUT would you rather live on knife edge wondering when
and if your cheaper option is going to let you down OR would you prefer
peace of mind . . . This cost should be swallowed up with a sponsorship so
theoretically, it shouldn't be a problem.
Listeners are very 'fickle' and there are so many options these days you
need to make sure they trust your output otherwise, if the perception is
that you keep going off air, you will have a poor reputation and lose
credibility within the community.
Please Note: Tone FM is a 'Not for Profit' Community Radio Station which is
run by volunteers so we may not respond to your email straight away so
please be patient with us. You can help support us by placing a donation
<http://donate.tonefm.co.uk/> HERE
Kind regards.
Darren Cullum
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[mailto:cma-l-bounces at mailman.commedia.org.uk] On Behalf Of Ian Hickling
Sent: 26 February 2015 18:03
To: Geoff Rogers; radio at bayfm.co.uk; cma-l
Subject: [cma-l] Automation
I hesitated before posting exactly the same recommendation.
We've been working hard in this business for 16 years now - and have seen
all sorts of play-out systems.
We've never found anything to beat Myriad.
We've never installed anything other than Myriad
OK - it's not cheap - and there are loads of free systems out there.
But it's British - it's very well engineered - it's rock solid if you follow
the simple rules - and the support from the guys in Hull is first class.
If you've never experienced it, you can get a 1-month free trial.
If you want to borrow a complete system, we can arrange that too.
Like Geoff says - provide your own hardware - to the right specification -
and the cost can come way down.
And yes - shame on us - we do get a small "thank you" for every one we
install.
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Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2015 17:29:49 +0000
From: geoff at susyradio.com
To: radio at bayfm.co.uk; cma-l at commedia.org.uk
Subject: Re: [cma-l] Automation
You gets what you pays for...
Myriad is the system we use and I've got no hesitation in recommending it.
If you buy rather than lease, it is well worth while. And being a
professional system may tick any training boxes you have in your key
commitments.
The discounts for Community radio are huge, especially if you just buy the
licences and supply your own hardware.
Hope this helps.
Regards,
Geoff
On 26 February 2015 at 15:40, Bay Fm Radio <radio at bayfm.co.uk> wrote:
Hi All,
We're considering changing our play-out system.
We're currently using OTS which is great and extremely reliable but,
limited. I'd like the ability to be able to program different spots at
different days and times etc.
I've been looking at Jazler Radiostar2. Are there any stations using this
automation?
Myriad (P-Squared) is too expensive and we're not prepared to pay for it
monthly either.
Thanks in advance,
Bay FM.
Andy.
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