[cma-l] Music Royalties for simulcast DAB

[Tony Bailey]

If this debate is about a temporary use, can I suggest some bird song?  
Alternatively, if you really want to avoid paying PPL (not PRS) there 
are plenty of 50 year old records that are no longer in copyright.

Regards,  Tony Bailey


On 25/02/15 12:54, Ian Hickling wrote:
> This is a hot potato that isn't going to go away.
> If we agree to paying a Royalty at all - and it's a very big "if" - 
> then shouldn't it be graded on the number of consumers - the listening 
> audience?
> And shouldn't that be determined by the Royalty organisation (the 
> seller) and billed as such - rather than being required to be supplied 
> by the broadcaster (the customer)?
>
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> Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2015 12:47:07 +0000
> From: dannylawrence at gateway978.com
> To: tlr at gairloch.co.uk
> CC: cma-l at mailman.commedia.org.uk
> Subject: Re: [cma-l] DAB
>
> Well we could all refuse to pay the simulcast of our cr license than,  
> at present I'm on fm and repeat the same service on line
> They charge for this
> My impression is that they will charge for this too, without any doubt 
> in my mind
> /-------Original Message-------/
> /*From:*/ tlr at gairloch.co.uk <mailto:tlr at gairloch.co.uk>
> /*Date:*/ 25/02/2015 12:41:58
> /*To:*/ Danny Lawrence <mailto:dannylawrence at gateway978.com>
> /*Cc:*/ cma-l at mailman.commedia.org.uk 
> <mailto:cma-l at mailman.commedia.org.uk>
> /*Subject:*/ Re: [cma-l] DAB
> As I said - because PPL charging schemes are inconsistent! Hopefully 
> in this case they could work in your favour (but of course PPL may 
> find some way to try to charge - personally, if the DAB were a 
> simulcast of an existing FM service I would refuse to pay any 
> additional demand). Hopefully this is any aspect of the whole idea 
> that the pilot will help clarify.
> Alex
> On 25 February 2015 at 12:33 Danny Lawrence 
> <dannylawrence at gateway978.com> wrote:
>
> Of course there will be additional charge   we pay extra for streaming 
> our service,  why wouldn't we pay more on DAB
> /-------Original Message-------/
> /*From:*/ tlr at gairloch.co.uk <mailto:tlr at gairloch.co.uk>
> /*Date:*/ 25/02/2015 12:21:33
> /*To:*/ Danny Lawrence <mailto:dannylawrence at gateway978.com>; CMA-L 
> <mailto:cma-l at commedia.org.uk>
> /*Subject:*/ Re: [cma-l] DAB
> I don't think there would be any additional charge if it's a simulcast 
> of your existing broadcasts - unless they class it as a test 
> transmission I suppose.
> One of the many inconsistencies of PPL charging is that you could 
> (Ofcom permitting) increase your transmiission area and audience 
> 10-fold and it would not affect your PPL licence terms, but if people 
> in a shop or office within your existing area want to listen to the 
> radio they have to pay an additional licence,
>
> Alex
> On 25 February 2015 at 11:27 Danny Lawrence 
> <dannylawrence at gateway978.com> wrote:
>
> And not forgetting the costs know doubt of PRS/PPL for this trial.......
> Probably expensive too
> Dan
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