[cma-l] 4ZZZ accounts (?) - Spectrum
Tony Bailey
ravensound at pilgrimsound.co.uk
Tue Dec 8 13:06:26 GMT 2015
Spectrum allocation has always had a pecking order, some slots are
allocated on a primary or secondary basis for example. This is implied
in that CR has to tolerate higher co channel interference in some
cases. There are precedents for devolution of frequency allocation
which is purely a technical issue. The FM band is already sub divided
but that does not prevent secondary use such as CR in a BBC sub band
which already happens. By "bid" I meant the allocation process.
Regards, Tony Bailey
On 08/12/15 12:19, Ian Hickling wrote:
> Oh - come on fellas - that's never going to happen - is it?
> As long as we have the WTA and some form of BA, there's always going to be regulation - and so there should be.
> "Light touch"?Depends on who's doing it and who's on the receiving end whether it's seen as "light" or not.
> CR stations get it slightly wrong with their KCs and get a whopping (for them) fine.
> The commercial giants do more or less as they like - and threaten Ofcom if they don't get their own way.
> Why otherwise would we have stupidly low powers for CR stations - restriction on advertising - and some areas designated as "no go" because there's a resident ILR that doesn't want competition.It's all around you if you look.
> The CMA isn't in a position to bid for spectrum - even if there were a segment available.
> The BBC isn't going to give up any of its heritage and random FM occupancy voluntarily and I can't see Ofcom or any possible successor making it happen.
> So - the solution?
> Radical changes to Regulation.Details confidential at the moment - but the DCMS is at least listening.
> Ian Hickling
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> Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2015 10:52:44 +0000
> From: info at a-bc.co.uk
> To: cma-l at mailman.commedia.org.uk
> Subject: Re: [cma-l] 4ZZZ accounts
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> Thanks for that Tony. So just a mere 800watts ERP in the rural areas then!
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> Even though we'd like to think that way, I don't think 800w could work in UK - far more densely populated than France. A more flexible approach up to say 200w would be welcome though. Also consideration of some "light touch" licences below 25w might be good too. Many rural villages would probably only need 1watt - but that would only be viable with far less red-tape.
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> Glyn
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> On 8 December 2015 at 10:08, Tony Bailey <ravensound at pilgrimsound.co.uk> wrote:
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> Just picked this up after returning
> from overseas:
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> I think Paris was something of a special case when they
> re-assigned the FM band Glyn. A typical French FM community
> station in the sticks would have a 200 watt linear feeding a stack
> of four dipoles. In Paris they assigned all 50 channels to the
> National and commercial stations including a few community slots
> which I think were all shared by the dozen or so
> interest/ethnic/religious bodies. I don't remember there being
> any that did not cover the whole city, hence the unusually high
> power. That was all many years ago, but it was interesting to us
> because all the original local French FM stations were pirates
> since only medium and long wave was then in use generally.
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> Para 3 below: I've said this before: Radio Cracker!!
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> Channel allocations: Actually now may be the time for the CMA to
> bid for this, if the authorities wish to devolve licensing? For
> special events (JFMG) and radio amateurs (RSGB) are doing it
> already. It's not a broadcasting issue since that would come
> under regulation, just radcoms. Why don't we bid for a community
> radio sub band and let the BBC and ILR do the rest?
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> Tony Bailey
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> On 05/11/15 12:34, Associated Broadcast Consultants wrote:
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> Interesting James (your insights - not the document that is a boring
> financial statement).
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> I recall seeing somewhere that all the community stations in Paris are on
> 6kW from very high tower blocks. Alternative models for community radio
> can and do work, even in Europe.
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> Personally I'd like to see a more flexible approach at both ends - ie:
> accommodate larger "community of interest" stations, maybe with stronger
> rules if needed and at other end of the scale also some smaller
> neighbourhood stations - say 1-5 watts with bare minimum light-touch
> regulation that prevents interference concerns Maybe allocate a single
> channel to be used anywhere in the country, with no guarantees of coverage
> quality similar to WiFi unlicensed approach. Or something else that
> embraces alternative approaches that others on this forum have alluded to
> rather than the current rather quaint, paternalistic approach.
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> IMHO
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> Glyn
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