[cma-l] News and Traffic

Tue Nov 25 13:36:48 GMT 2014

Hi Ian

Yes please. No point in re-re-inventing the wheel.

Thanks

 *Brian Wesley*
 Tel: 01507 201300
 contact at coastalfm.co.uk  | www.coastalfm.co.uk

On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 11:00 AM, Ian Hickling <transplanfm at hotmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi Ray
> I was hoping someone would ask - I'm sorry - I am SO transparent.
> I always wanted to try to get a bit of cash back to cover the work
> involved, but it's impossible with electronic documents as anyone can copy
> and distribute - so I just ask that we get a credit whenever it's used.
> If you'd like to contact me direct via our website with the exact name of
> your station as you like it to be presented, I'd be delighted to send you a
> branded copy.
> OK then - anyone else as well?
> Ian
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2014 18:05:27 +0000
> From: ray.godby at hcrfm.co.uk
> To: cma-l at mailman.commedia.org.uk
>
> Subject: Re: [cma-l] News and Traffic
>
> Ian
> Would be interested in your presenters guide for training.
> Ray Godby
> Operations Director
> HCR104FM
> Huntingdon Community Radio
>  On 24 Nov 2014 16:58, "Ian Hickling" <transplanfm at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Thanks Alan - I think we knew those particular rules already.
> We have a 26-page Presenter Guide developed over the past 15 years which
> covers those points and which we offer individually branded to Client
> stations.
> Ian
>
> ------------------------------
> From: alan.coote at 5digital.co.uk
> To: cma-l at mailman.commedia.org.uk
> Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2014 09:37:46 +0000
> Subject: Re: [cma-l] News and Traffic
>
> Ian,
>
> ‘Success‘ of course depends how it’s defined.
>
> If you would like some rules;
>
> Rule 1: Radio works similarly wherever you are.
>
> Rule 2: Ignore rule 1 as you’ll never be the top station by doing what the
> incumbent does.
>
> Rule 3 When it all goes wrong (and it will) refer to rule 1.
>
> As a side note we have a ”House Style” which covers everything a presenter
> needs to know when on air. For Let’s Talk Business there is an “Editorial
> Policy” which outlines how subjects are treated as well as topics we do and
> don’t cover.
>
> As a minumum I’d recommend all stations have a written house style, (even
> if they are doing OK without one) the presenters, station managers,
> listeners and advertisers will all benefit.
>
> Kind Regards
> Alan
>
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> *From:* Ian Hickling [mailto:transplanfm at hotmail.com]
> *Sent:* 24 November 2014 07:09
> *To:* The Community Media Association Discussion List;
> alan.coote at 5digital.co.uk
> *Subject:* News and Traffic
>
> Again Alan, I apologise for not having seen a copy of the standard rules.
> Maybe the stations I'm referring to are successful because nobody told
> them it couldn't be done?
> Ian
> ------------------------------
> From: alan.coote at 5digital.co.uk
> To: cma-l at mailman.commedia.org.uk
> Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2014 22:02:31 +0000
> Subject: Re: [cma-l] News and Traffic
> Ian,
>
> While there are corners of the radio universe where the sun rises in the
> west and sets in the east, for most standard rules apply. Like anything
> though, understanding how the basics work allows one to find alternatives.
> This apply to gaining listeners and giving advertises a return on their
> investment, so I’m sure you are right.
>
> Kind Regards
> Alan
>
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> *From:* cma-l-bounces at mailman.commedia.org.uk [
> mailto:cma-l-bounces at mailman.commedia.org.uk
> <cma-l-bounces at mailman.commedia.org.uk>] *On Behalf Of *Ian Hickling
> *Sent:* 20 November 2014 17:33
> *To:* The Community Media Association Discussion List
> *Subject:* [cma-l] News and Traffic
>
> Unfortunately Alan I don't have access to every survey asking why people
> listen to the radio.
> What I do have is specific feedback from the 40-odd Community Radio
> stations we have facilitated over the last 10 years and the general feeling
> - illustrated by the very small number that use a bought-in News service
> such as SNR - is that their listeners prefer to have proper relevant local
> news written and read by people who know the area.
> They're not really interested in getting a tiny token dose of National and
> International News - read by what often sounds like a Estuary
> work-experience student - from their Community station.
> That's hardly keeping in touch.
> And I suggest that advertisers at CR level - and again we've lots of
> experience in that field as well - don't follow those cunning marketing
> theories - they just  ask for good quality exposure when the right tranche
> of audience is present.
> Ian
>
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> From: Alan Coote
> Date:19/11/2014 6:41 PM (GMT+00:00)
> To: 'The Community Media Association Discussion List'
> Subject: Re: [cma-l] News and Traffic
> Ian,
>
> Every survey asking why people listen to the radio has the same top answer
> - for the news. So as you say, the reason stations broadcast news is to
> prevent people switching over.
>
> While I’m all in favour of breaking away from the norms, not having
> national news and just concentrating on local stuff or not having any news
> makes a station sound small and out of touch.
>
> There are revenue benefit too. A programmers job is to get listeners to
> the end of the next ad break for which a tried and tested method is to run
> commercials just before the biggest news stories. This make advertisers
> happy.
>
> Covering news is expensive as the top stories are most often national or
> international. This means it’s impractical for almost all stations (even
> commercial) to fund.
>
> On balance it’s better to have national news than not and to use a service
> like SNR.
>
>
> Kind Regards
> Alan
>
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> *From:* cma-l-bounces at mailman.commedia.org.uk [
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> <cma-l-bounces at mailman.commedia.org.uk>] *On Behalf Of *Ian Hickling
> *Sent:* 19 November 2014 16:11
> *To:* The Community Media Association Discussion List
> *Subject:* [cma-l] News and Traffic
>
> I can't see the need for CR stations to carry SNR or any other
> national/international news on the hour any more - even for using it as a
> convenient hour closer.
> The reason usually offered is that people will tune away if there's no
> news.
> My counter to that would be that the CR audience neither wants nor needs
> news regularly.
> It can get it - if and when it needs it - all too easily from papers or TV.
> It used to be a sign of professionalism if you were running a trial for a
> commercial service.
> But with the low quality of most syndicated news presentation now, I
> suggest that you're much better off without it.
>
> -------------------------------------------
> > From: tlr at gairloch.co.uk
> > To: cma-l at mailman.commedia.org.uk
> > Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2014 13:05:11 +0000
> > Subject: Re: [cma-l] Local, National News and Traffic Updates Request
> >
> > The IRN service is great value, but of course it's
> national/international
> > news (and sadly there isn't a version for Scotland).
> >
> > Surely the most important thing a community station should be offering
> is
> > local/regional community-based news? Those are the hard work, of course!
> >
> > Alex
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "office" <office at fantasyradio.co.uk>
> > To: <cma-l at mailman.commedia.org.uk>
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2014 12:50 PM
> > Subject: [cma-l] Local, National News and Traffic Updates Request
> >
> >
> > We subscribe to IRN which gives much more than just news (hourly 2 min
> > bulletins 24hours a day) we get access to the 'net newsroom' which
> > includes sport, business, entertainment, and more. with a lot of
> > additional audio as well as the text. Also, things like remembrance
> > day, the queens speech and the inevitable disaster. all this for less
> > than £1.00 a day. Our local news, on the half hour, comes from our local
> > newspaper, for which we credit the paper. traffic reports come
> > principally from Google maps. just find your local area and click on
> > 'traffic' then the coloured routes tell you where all the traffic hold
> > ups are. - we also ask listeners to keep us updated.
> >
> > Hope that's helpful
> >
> > Phil Dawson
> > FANTASY RADIO
> > Devizes
> > Wiltshire.
> >
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> > > 1. Re: Local, National News and Traffic Updates Request (Ray Godby)
> > >
> > >
> > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >
> > > Message: 1
> > > Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2014 08:55:30 +0000
> > > From: Ray Godby <ray.godby at hcrfm.co.uk>
> > > To: The Community Media Association Discussion List
> > > <cma-l at mailman.commedia.org.uk>
> > > Subject: Re: [cma-l] Local, National News and Traffic Updates Request
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> > >
> > > Hi Mohammed,
> > > We at Huntingdon Community Radio subscribe to I.R.N. for national news.
> > > Local news we obtain mostly from our local newspaper who when they
> have a
> > > story come in it is emailed to us.(We are lucky as the office is nearly
> > > next door to the studios.) Local traffic we subscribe to Tom Tom and
> > > receive there live maps.
> > >
> > > Ray Godby
> > > Operations Director
> > >
> > > On 18 November 2014 13:29, Mohammed Tariq <m.tariq at inspirefm.org>
> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Hi All,
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Hope you are well.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Quick question on how (if you do), do you guys get local, national
> news
> > >> and traffic updates for your listeners?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> As you can all appreciate news is essential for any broadcast service
> and
> > >> hence how do you keep up with the demand of regular up to date news?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Currently we record the news first thing in the morning and then
> repeat
> > >> once during the afternoon and then once in the evening. Only problem
> with
> > >> this is that the news is not updated and hence sometimes not offering
> the
> > >> best service that we could.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> We don?t have regular volunteers to come in and do the news daily,
> hence
> > >> we only are able to the above during the week.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> I have tried to contact the local BBC radio station for advice and
> > >> (basically) their news feed ? but I have been told this is something
> that
> > >> they want to do but if and when they decide to do this (And god knows
> > >> when
> > >> that will be!!), it will be a national incentive and not just a local
> > >> arrangement.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Is there any advice on where I can get local, national news and
> traffic,
> > >> preferably every hour or if not then 3 or 4 updates per day are
> > >> sufficient.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Many thanks in advance.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Sent with the kindest regards
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Mohammed Tariq
> > >>
> > >> Station Operations Manager
> > >>
> > >> 01582 481810
> > >>
> > >> 07930 286000
> > >>
> > >> www.inspirefm.org
> > >>
> > >> m.tariq at inspirefm.org
> > >>
> > >> Twitter: @inspirefmluton
> > >>
> > >> www.youtube.com/inspirefmluton
> > >>
> > >> www.facebook.com/inspirefmluton
> > >>
> > >>
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