<div dir="ltr">Hi Ian<div><br></div><div>Yes please. No point in re-re-inventing the wheel.</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks<br><br><br><div id="WISESTAMP_SIG_a878e0031ab78f93899e01bf85ced835" href="http://WISESTAMP_SIG_a878e0031ab78f93899e01bf85ced835"><div><div style="max-width:600px" class="main_html"> <div class="html wisestamp_app main_sig" id="migrate_sig" style="margin:8px 8px 0 0"> <div style="font-size:11px"> <div class="wisestamp_app html_migrate" style="font-size:12px"><table style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12px;width:343px" border="0"><tbody style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12px;width:343px;border-spacing:2px 2px;border:0px none #808080"><tr style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12px;width:343px;border-spacing:2px 2px;border:0px none #808080" valign="top"><td style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12px;vertical-align:top;padding:1px;width:51px;border-spacing:2px 2px"><span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13px;border-spacing:2px 2px"><br style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13px;border-spacing:2px 2px"></span></td> <td style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12px;text-align:left;vertical-align:top;padding:1px;width:282px;border-spacing:2px 2px"><span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13px;text-align:left;border-spacing:2px 2px"> <span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13px;text-align:left;text-decoration:none solid #808080;color:#808080;outline:#808080 none 0px;border-spacing:2px 2px;border:0px none #808080"> <strong class="text-color theme-font" style="font-family:Arial;font-size:13px;text-align:left;text-decoration:none solid #00a1e6;color:#00a1e6;outline:#00a1e6 none 0px;border-spacing:2px 2px;border:0px none #00a1e6">Brian Wesley</strong> </span> </span> <br style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12px;text-align:left;border-spacing:2px 2px"> <div style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12px;text-align:left;width:282px;border-spacing:2px 2px"><span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13px;text-align:left;border-spacing:2px 2px"> <span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13px;text-align:left;text-decoration:none solid #808080;color:#808080;outline:#808080 none 0px;border-spacing:2px 2px;border:0px none #808080"> Tel: 01507 201300 </span> </span></div> <span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13px;text-align:left;border-spacing:2px 2px"> <span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13px;text-align:left;text-decoration:none solid #666699;color:#666699;outline:#666699 none 0px;border-spacing:2px 2px;border:0px none #666699"><a href="mailto:contact@coastalfm.co.uk">contact@coastalfm.co.uk</a></span> </span> <span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13px;text-align:left;border-spacing:2px 2px"> <span class="text-color" style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13px;text-align:left;text-decoration:none solid #00a1e6;color:#00a1e6;outline:#00a1e6 none 0px;border-spacing:2px 2px;border:0px none #00a1e6"> | </span> <span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13px;text-align:left;text-decoration:none solid #666699;color:#666699;outline:#666699 none 0px;border-spacing:2px 2px;border:0px none #666699"><a href="http://www.coastalfm.co.uk">www.coastalfm.co.uk</a><br style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13px;text-align:left;text-decoration:none solid #666699;color:#666699;outline:#666699 none 0px;border-spacing:2px 2px;border:0px none #666699"></span> </span></td> </tr> </tbody> </table></div> <div style="clear:both"> <div> <div style="font:13pt Arial;color:#3a3637;margin-bottom:5px"></div><table border="0" style="width:440px"> <tbody><tr valign="top"> <td style="font:8pt 'Arial Narrow',Arial;color:#4e4b4c;padding-left:10px"> </td> </tr> </tbody></table></div> </div> </div> </div> </div><img src="http://ws-stats.appspot.com/ga/pixel.png?yes__count=true"></div></div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 11:00 AM, Ian Hickling <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:transplanfm@hotmail.com" target="_blank">transplanfm@hotmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div><div dir="ltr">Hi Ray<div>I was hoping someone would ask - I'm sorry - I am SO transparent.</div><div>I always wanted to try to get a bit of cash back to cover the work involved, but it's impossible with electronic documents as anyone can copy and distribute - so I just ask that we get a credit whenever it's used.</div><div>If you'd like to contact me direct via our website with the exact name of your station as you like it to be presented, I'd be delighted to send you a branded copy.<br>OK then - anyone else as well?</div><div>Ian<br><br><div><hr>Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2014 18:05:27 +0000<br>From: <a href="mailto:ray.godby@hcrfm.co.uk" target="_blank">ray.godby@hcrfm.co.uk</a><br>To: <a href="mailto:cma-l@mailman.commedia.org.uk" target="_blank">cma-l@mailman.commedia.org.uk</a><div><div class="h5"><br>Subject: Re: [cma-l] News and Traffic<br><br><p dir="ltr">Ian<br>
Would be interested in your presenters guide for training.<br>
Ray Godby<br>
Operations Director<br>
HCR104FM<br>
Huntingdon Community Radio<br>
</p>
<div>On 24 Nov 2014 16:58, "Ian Hickling" <<a href="mailto:transplanfm@hotmail.com" target="_blank">transplanfm@hotmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote style="border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div><div dir="ltr">Thanks Alan - I think we knew those particular rules already.<div>We have a 26-page Presenter Guide developed over the past 15 years which covers those points and which we offer individually branded to Client stations.</div><div>Ian<br><br><div><hr>From: <a href="mailto:alan.coote@5digital.co.uk" target="_blank">alan.coote@5digital.co.uk</a><br>To: <a href="mailto:cma-l@mailman.commedia.org.uk" target="_blank">cma-l@mailman.commedia.org.uk</a><br>Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2014 09:37:46 +0000<br>Subject: Re: [cma-l] News and Traffic<br><br><div><a name="149e69fc91af8849_149e2bda60604694__MailEndCompose"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Ian,</span></a><br><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span><br><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">‘Success‘ of course depends how it’s defined. </span><br><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span><br><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">If you would like some rules;</span><br><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span><br><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Rule 1: Radio works similarly wherever you are.</span><br><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span><br><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Rule 2: Ignore rule 1 as you’ll never be the top station by doing what the incumbent does.</span><br><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span><br><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Rule 3 When it all goes wrong (and it will) refer to rule 1.</span><br><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span><br><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">As a side note we have a ”House Style” which covers everything a presenter needs to know when on air. For Let’s Talk Business there is an “Editorial Policy” which outlines how subjects are treated as well as topics we do and don’t cover.</span><br><div><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span><br><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">As a minumum I’d recommend all stations have a written house style, (even if they are doing OK without one) the presenters, station managers, listeners and advertisers will all benefit.</span><br><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span><br><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Kind Regards</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"></span><br><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Alan</span><br><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span><br><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Let’s Talk Business</span><br><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Twitter - </span><a href="http://www.twitter.com/LTBShow" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">@LTBShow</span></a><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"></span><br><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Web - </span><a href="http://www.letstalkbusinessonline.com/" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">http://www.LetsTalkBusinessOnline.com</span></a><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"></span><br><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span><br><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><img border="0" width="200" height="71" src="cid:image001.gif@01D007C5.18064440" alt="cid:image001.gif@01CE03CD.223AC920"></span><br><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">The Media Production, Broadcasting and Training Company</span><br></div><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span><br><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #b5c4df 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> Ian Hickling [mailto:<a href="mailto:transplanfm@hotmail.com" target="_blank">transplanfm@hotmail.com</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> 24 November 2014 07:09<br><b>To:</b> The Community Media Association Discussion List; <a href="mailto:alan.coote@5digital.co.uk" target="_blank">alan.coote@5digital.co.uk</a><br><b>Subject:</b> News and Traffic</span><br></div></div> <br><div><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Again Alan, I apologise for not having seen a copy of the standard rules.</span><br><div><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Maybe the stations I'm referring to are successful because nobody told them it couldn't be done?</span><br></div><div><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Ian</span><br><div><div align="center" style="text-align:center"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><hr size="2" width="100%" align="center"></span></div><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">From: <a href="mailto:alan.coote@5digital.co.uk" target="_blank">alan.coote@5digital.co.uk</a><br>To: <a href="mailto:cma-l@mailman.commedia.org.uk" target="_blank">cma-l@mailman.commedia.org.uk</a><br>Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2014 22:02:31 +0000<br>Subject: Re: [cma-l] News and Traffic</span><br><div><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Ian, </span><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""></span><br><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""></span><br><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">While there are corners of the radio universe where the sun rises in the west and sets in the east, for most standard rules apply. Like anything though, understanding how the basics work allows one to find alternatives. This apply to gaining listeners and giving advertises a return on their investment, so I’m sure you are right.</span><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""></span><br><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""></span><br><div><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Kind Regards</span><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""></span><br><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Alan</span><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""></span><br><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""></span><br><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Twitter - </span><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><a href="http://www.twitter.com/LTBShow" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">@LTBShow</span></a></span><br><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Web - </span><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><a href="http://www.letstalkbusinessonline.com/" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">http://www.LetsTalkBusinessOnline.com</span></a></span><br><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""></span><br><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><img border="0" width="200" height="71" src="cid:image001.gif@01D007C5.18064440" alt="cid:image001.gif@01CE03CD.223AC920"></span><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""></span><br><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">The Media Production, Broadcasting and Training Company</span><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""></span><br></div><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""></span><br><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #b5c4df 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> <a href="mailto:cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk" target="_blank">cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk</a> [<a href="mailto:cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk" target="_blank">mailto:cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Ian Hickling<br><b>Sent:</b> 20 November 2014 17:33<br><b>To:</b> The Community Media Association Discussion List<br><b>Subject:</b> [cma-l] News and Traffic</span><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""></span><br></div></div><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> </span><br><div><div><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Unfortunately Alan I don't have access to every survey asking why people listen to the radio.</span><br></div><div><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">What I do have is specific feedback from the 40-odd Community Radio stations we have facilitated over the last 10 years and the general feeling - illustrated by the very small number that use a bought-in News service such as SNR - is that their listeners prefer to have proper relevant local news written and read by people who know the area.</span><br></div><div><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">They're not really interested in getting a tiny token dose of National and International News - read by what often sounds like a Estuary work-experience student - from their Community station.<br>That's hardly keeping in touch.<br>And I suggest that advertisers at CR level - and again we've lots of experience in that field as well - don't follow those cunning marketing theories - they just ask for good quality exposure when the right tranche of audience is present.</span><br></div><div><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Ian</span><br></div><div><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> </span><br></div><div><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">--------------------------------------------------</span><br></div><div><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><br>From: Alan Coote <br>Date:19/11/2014 6:41 PM (GMT+00:00) <br>To: 'The Community Media Association Discussion List' <br>Subject: Re: [cma-l] News and Traffic </span><br><div><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Ian, </span><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""></span><br><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""></span><br><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Every survey asking why people listen to the radio has the same top answer - for the news. So as you say, the reason stations broadcast news is to prevent people switching over. </span><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""></span><br><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""></span><br><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">While I’m all in favour of breaking away from the norms, not having national news and just concentrating on local stuff or not having any news makes a station sound small and out of touch.</span><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""></span><br><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""></span><br><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">There are revenue benefit too. A programmers job is to get listeners to the end of the next ad break for which a tried and tested method is to run commercials just before the biggest news stories. This make advertisers happy.</span><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""></span><br><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""></span><br><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Covering news is expensive as the top stories are most often national or international. This means it’s impractical for almost all stations (even commercial) to fund. </span><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""></span><br><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""></span><br><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">On balance it’s better to have national news than not and to use a service like SNR. </span><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""></span><br><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""></span><br><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""></span><br><div><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Kind Regards</span><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""></span><br><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Alan</span><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""></span><br><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""></span><br><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><a href="http://www.letstalkbusinessonline.com/" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Hear Alan Every Week on Let’s Talk Business The UK’s Premier Radio Programme For Current and Future Entrepreneurs - 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even for using it as a convenient hour closer.</span><br><div><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">The reason usually offered is that people will tune away if there's no news.</span><br></div><div><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">My counter to that would be that the CR audience neither wants nor needs news regularly.</span><br></div><div><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">It can get it - if and when it needs it - all too easily from papers or TV.<br>It used to be a sign of professionalism if you were running a trial for a commercial service.</span><br></div><div><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">But with the low quality of most syndicated news presentation now, I suggest that you're much better off without it.</span><br></div><div><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> </span><br></div><div><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">-------------------------------------------</span><br><div><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">> From: <a href="mailto:tlr@gairloch.co.uk" target="_blank">tlr@gairloch.co.uk</a><br>> To: <a href="mailto:cma-l@mailman.commedia.org.uk" target="_blank">cma-l@mailman.commedia.org.uk</a><br>> Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2014 13:05:11 +0000<br>> Subject: Re: [cma-l] Local, National News and Traffic Updates Request<br>> <br>> The IRN service is great value, but of course it's national/international <br>> news (and sadly there isn't a version for Scotland).<br>> <br>> Surely the most important thing a community station should be offering is <br>> local/regional community-based news? Those are the hard work, of course!<br>> <br>> Alex<br>> <br>> ----- Original Message ----- <br>> From: "office" <<a href="mailto:office@fantasyradio.co.uk" target="_blank">office@fantasyradio.co.uk</a>><br>> To: <<a href="mailto:cma-l@mailman.commedia.org.uk" target="_blank">cma-l@mailman.commedia.org.uk</a>><br>> Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2014 12:50 PM<br>> Subject: [cma-l] Local, National News and Traffic Updates Request<br>> <br>> <br>> We subscribe to IRN which gives much more than just news (hourly 2 min<br>> bulletins 24hours a day) we get access to the 'net newsroom' which<br>> includes sport, business, entertainment, and more. with a lot of<br>> additional audio as well as the text. Also, things like remembrance<br>> day, the queens speech and the inevitable disaster. all this for less<br>> than £1.00 a day. Our local news, on the half hour, comes from our local<br>> newspaper, for which we credit the paper. traffic reports come<br>> principally from Google maps. just find your local area and click on<br>> 'traffic' then the coloured routes tell you where all the traffic hold<br>> ups are. - we also ask listeners to keep us updated.<br>> <br>> Hope that's helpful<br>> <br>> Phil Dawson<br>> FANTASY RADIO<br>> Devizes<br>> Wiltshire.<br>> <br>> <br>> On 19/11/2014 12:00, <a href="mailto:cma-l-request@mailman.commedia.org.uk" target="_blank">cma-l-request@mailman.commedia.org.uk</a> wrote:<br>> > Send cma-l mailing list submissions to<br>> > <a href="mailto:cma-l@mailman.commedia.org.uk" target="_blank">cma-l@mailman.commedia.org.uk</a><br>> ><br>> > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit<br>> > <a href="http://mailman.commedia.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/cma-l" target="_blank">http://mailman.commedia.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/cma-l</a><br>> > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to<br>> > <a href="mailto:cma-l-request@mailman.commedia.org.uk" target="_blank">cma-l-request@mailman.commedia.org.uk</a><br>> ><br>> > You can reach the person managing the list at<br>> > <a href="mailto:cma-l-owner@mailman.commedia.org.uk" target="_blank">cma-l-owner@mailman.commedia.org.uk</a><br>> ><br>> > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific<br>> > than "Re: Contents of cma-l digest..."<br>> ><br>> ><br>> > Today's Topics:<br>> ><br>> > 1. Re: Local, National News and Traffic Updates Request (Ray Godby)<br>> ><br>> ><br>> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------<br>> ><br>> > Message: 1<br>> > Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2014 08:55:30 +0000<br>> > From: Ray Godby <<a href="mailto:ray.godby@hcrfm.co.uk" target="_blank">ray.godby@hcrfm.co.uk</a>><br>> > To: The Community Media Association Discussion List<br>> > <<a href="mailto:cma-l@mailman.commedia.org.uk" target="_blank">cma-l@mailman.commedia.org.uk</a>><br>> > Subject: Re: [cma-l] Local, National News and Traffic Updates Request<br>> > Message-ID:<br>> > <<a href="mailto:CAL9uzdLVFROP3nR+ifDUR6DdrFDuzqZY3b-ougmGGLsZ=AUVDw@mail.gmail.com" target="_blank">CAL9uzdLVFROP3nR+ifDUR6DdrFDuzqZY3b-ougmGGLsZ=AUVDw@mail.gmail.com</a>><br>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<br>> ><br>> > Hi Mohammed,<br>> > We at Huntingdon Community Radio subscribe to I.R.N. for national news.<br>> > Local news we obtain mostly from our local newspaper who when they have a<br>> > story come in it is emailed to us.(We are lucky as the office is nearly<br>> > next door to the studios.) Local traffic we subscribe to Tom Tom and<br>> > receive there live maps.<br>> ><br>> > Ray Godby<br>> > Operations Director<br>> ><br>> > On 18 November 2014 13:29, Mohammed Tariq <<a href="mailto:m.tariq@inspirefm.org" target="_blank">m.tariq@inspirefm.org</a>> wrote:<br>> ><br>> >> Hi All,<br>> >><br>> >><br>> >><br>> >> Hope you are well.<br>> >><br>> >><br>> >> Quick question on how (if you do), do you guys get local, national news<br>> >> and traffic updates for your listeners?<br>> >><br>> >><br>> >> As you can all appreciate news is essential for any broadcast service and<br>> >> hence how do you keep up with the demand of regular up to date news?<br>> >><br>> >><br>> >><br>> >> Currently we record the news first thing in the morning and then repeat<br>> >> once during the afternoon and then once in the evening. Only problem with<br>> >> this is that the news is not updated and hence sometimes not offering the<br>> >> best service that we could.<br>> >><br>> >><br>> >><br>> >> We don?t have regular volunteers to come in and do the news daily, hence<br>> >> we only are able to the above during the week.<br>> >><br>> >><br>> >><br>> >> I have tried to contact the local BBC radio station for advice and<br>> >> (basically) their news feed ? but I have been told this is something that<br>> >> they want to do but if and when they decide to do this (And god knows <br>> >> when<br>> >> that will be!!), it will be a national incentive and not just a local<br>> >> arrangement.<br>> >><br>> >><br>> >><br>> >> Is there any advice on where I can get local, national news and traffic,<br>> >> preferably every hour or if not then 3 or 4 updates per day are <br>> >> sufficient.<br>> >><br>> >><br>> >> Many thanks in advance.<br>> >><br>> >><br>> >> Sent with the kindest regards<br>> >><br>> >><br>> >><br>> >> Mohammed Tariq<br>> >><br>> >> Station Operations Manager<br>> >><br>> >> 01582 481810<br>> >><br>> >> 07930 286000<br>> >><br>> >> <a href="http://www.inspirefm.org" target="_blank">www.inspirefm.org</a><br>> >><br>> >> <a href="mailto:m.tariq@inspirefm.org" target="_blank">m.tariq@inspirefm.org</a><br>> >><br>> >> Twitter: @inspirefmluton<br>> >><br>> >> <a href="http://www.youtube.com/inspirefmluton" target="_blank">www.youtube.com/inspirefmluton</a><br>> >><br>> >> <a href="http://www.facebook.com/inspirefmluton" target="_blank">www.facebook.com/inspirefmluton</a><br>> >><br>> >><br>> >><br>> >> _______________________________________________<br>> >><br>> >> Reply - 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