[cma-l] Making Media Matter?

Tue Nov 15 14:18:14 GMT 2011

I disagree with the suggestion that we should pussyfoot around to accommodate present government policies. After all government's are transitory, and will change tack like the Vicar of Bray - and that's no criticism of politicians. It is their job to reflect the wishes of the people - and it would appear there is a growing recognition of the separation between rich and the rest of us, let alone the poor.

That movement needs expression, as does the views of anyone else. Our job as community broadcasters is to provide a platform that allows anyone to broadcast. All we have to do is ensure that we abide by the broadcast code and regulations.

To suggest that anyone should be prevented from using our services is a very dangerous road to travel. 

Do I tell presenters not to mention Tottenham Hotspur? Or ever suggest cooking tripe? Or to support and promote all government diktats?

If a reasonable case is presented - then a platform should be made available. If there appears to be disagreement then organise an online poll, allow phone-ins, encourage discussion.

Whatever is broadcast will be disliked by someone. I'm not keen on drum and bass - but we encourage all musical genres. Where would it stop if we started to discriminate?

Certainly do not denigrate a group by suggesting that they are not worthy, because they don't conform to your own bigoted beliefs.

Trevor

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From: Ian Hickling <transplanfm at hotmail.com>
To: roger at coalway.f9.co.uk; cma-l at mailman.commedia.org.uk
Cc: meccsa at jiscmail.ac.uk
Sent: Tuesday, 15 November 2011, 11:13
Subject: [cma-l] Making Media Matter?

So are you proposing that we actively support people who are potentially breaking the law - and risk prosecution?
Opposing Government policies isn't going to do a lot to get CR better central funding!
One man's legitimate commercial revenue is another man's greed.
In my experience it's generally the ones who don't have it - and aren't prepared to do anything about it - that like to cause trouble for the people who have worked hard all their lives to build up a successful business.

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Ian Hickling
Partner
transplan UK

> From: roger at coalway.f9.co.uk
> To: cma-l at mailman.commedia.org.uk
> Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 17:34:22 +0000
> CC: MECCSA at JISCMAIL.AC.UK
> Subject: Re: [cma-l] Making Media matter
> 
> >From distance I have been tuning in to the Occupy London live stream, it is
> a rich and varying mix of opinion, debate, singing, performance but they
> need support, keeping it on air 14-16 hours a day
> 
> So I am writng this to appeal to the Community media community isn;t this
> just the example of real broadcasting that we should be supporting?
> 
> If you can get down there, contact them- if a couple of people a day could
> help with technical, media, content support.
> 
> The cause is challenging greed isn't that the heart of community?
> 
> Do what you can? What can CMA offer? MECCSA?
> 
> www.livestream.com/occupylsx
> 
> best to all
> 
> Roger Drury
> SOUNDWORK Community Projects
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> > 1. Re: Sexually explicit songs and others...... (Eddie Stuart)
> > 2. Re: Sexually explicit songs and others...... (Two Lochs Radio)
> > 3. Re: [comradio-l] Avoiding sexually-explicit songs (Andy King)
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> > Message: 1
> > Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2011 14:36:46 +0000
> > From: Eddie Stuart <eddie at kcr.fm>
> > Subject: Re: [cma-l] Sexually explicit songs and others......
> > To: cma-l at mailman.commedia.org.uk
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> >
> > Hmm - a Classic playlist, eh?
> >
> > This is from a 1948 song by Bull Moose Jackson which I wouldn't want to
> > justify to any feminists.....
> >
> > I want a bow legged Woman that's all I want a bow legged Woman that's all
> > I'll fall in love with Her right from the start Because her big fat Legs
> > are so far apart I want a bow legged Woman right now I want to find me A
> > gal somehow She's gotta be built like an ol' bass fiddle Big bow legs and
> > a hole in the middle Gotta be on my way, To find a bow legged Woman today.
> >
> > Not a swear word in sight!
> >
> > Eddie
> >
> > On 01/11/2011 14:20, Julian Mellor wrote:
> >> Very well said Eddie.
> >>
> >> Makes me wonder how one deals with double entendre. At face value the
> >> word may be innocent, but to the attuned ear it could be very lude, rude
> >> or even abusive. And that gets even more complex when it's combined with
> >> street slang (what was that word anyway?), or street slang from other
> >> languages (there's an urban track I want to play from Marseille, sung in
> >> a mixture of French and Algerian Arabic - can anyone translate to make
> >> sure it's safe?).
> >>
> >> Maybe we should just keep safe and select only from the Classic Gold
> >> playlist.
> >>
> >> Julian
> >>
> >> On 1 Nov 2011, at 12:29, Eddie Stuart wrote:
> >>
> >>> It's not just explicit songs - I'd use the word "appropriate"
> >>>
> >>> I think that we'd all agree that the Glasgow station who tried to say
> >>> that the Fword was every day speech and that panini didn't mean a
> >>> certain body part was having a laugh and were rightly kicked.
> >>>
> >>> However, the danger is that we get knee-jerk reactions that have
> >>> unintended consequences. Ban Eminem, but then you knock out the song
> >>> that made Dido famous and is OK.
> >>>
> >>> You really need someone of the right age to vet a lot of rap and similar
> >>> stuff - I am old enough to saythat I would have probably caught panini -
> >>> especially given the words around it, but a lot of street slang is just
> >>> way beyond my ken - both musically (?!!) and lyrically.
> >>>
> >>> We have a lot of Gaelic up here and a wonderful column in yesterdays
> >>> Aberdeen Press & Journal commented on the ATM in East London using
> >>> Cockney rhyming slang and asking why the Gaelic Mafia weren't agitating
> >>> for their version up here. The columnist points out that in Gaelic
> >>> rhyming slang a withdrawal would be a "cnap" - literally a lump of
> >>> money, ie a wad of cash. Unfortunately for non-Gaels, the "n" is
> >>> pronounced here as an "r" and would thus sound like the word that got
> >>> Paul Simon's "Kodachrome" banned when it was first released.
> >>>
> >>> The English nickname "Bot" caused total hilarity with Gaelic speaking
> >>> school kids in Stornoway many years ago as they couldn't believe that
> >>> anyone, let alone a visiting Deputy Headmaster, was openly called
> >>> "*rse".
> >>>
> >>> Eric Bogle, much loved as an artist by many of our older Presenters, has
> >>> a song "Guns, Guns, Guns" which is a mickey take on the American way of
> >>> life. The day after Dunblane or the recent Tomintoul Gamekeeper tragedy,
> >>> many people and possibly Ofcom would probably regard that song as at
> >>> least as inapproriate as the Fword!
> >>>
> >>> I wouldn't play "I Predict A Riot" the night that Tottenham burned and
> >>> hope that everyone else was that sensible. But if you're using an
> >>> automated playout system out of hours.....?? Do you watch the news and
> >>> then quickly scan your entire music collection?
> >>>
> >>> So yes, you should certainly vet music and not load/play certain tracks.
> >>> The Fword is an obvious one. But you also need to stress
> >>> "appropriateness", not just a very narrow "explicit"
> >>>
> >>> You also need to accept that with the best will in the world, something
> >>> will go wrong once in a while and have procedures in place to handle it.
> >>> The Fword is easy, others become more subjective and station specific.
> >>>
> >>> That's my personal opinion, anyway.
> >>>
> >>> Must go now and finish my playlist for tonight - hmm, now which
> >>> excellent track by my favourite female rock band Fanny shall we start
> >>> with?
> >>>
> >>> Eddie
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Sorry Martin - and everyone else - but if, as you say, you haven't the
> >>>> the staff or volunteers to pre-check all music that's played, then you
> >>>> should simply not be using anything - or anyone - that you are not
> >>>> prepared to personally guarantee as socially acceptable.
> >>>>
> >>>> You are leaving yourself wide open to very serious social and litigious
> >>>> action and in my view you should not risk operating a freely-available
> >>>> public service under those conditions.
> >>>>
> >>>> ------------------------------------
> >>>>
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> > From: "Two Lochs Radio" <tlr at gairloch.co.uk>
> > Subject: Re: [cma-l] Sexually explicit songs and others......
> > To: "Julian Mellor" <julian at 10radio.org>, "Eddie Stuart"
> > <eddie at kcr.fm>
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> > We have pondered similar questions with Gaelic, including the reverse of
> > the situation Eddie describes - there are perfectly common, decent Gaelic
> > words that sound like unnacceptable words in English and can make a
> > Station Manager prick up his ears (oops) as they go by.
> >
> > We also have the problem that a Gaelic word frequently needing to be
> > spoken by non-Gaelic speaking presenters (reading news or what's on items)
> > is a lewd word in Gaelic when pronounced with a slightly shorter vowel
> > sound than it should be, but it just seems to entertain the Gaels in the
> > audience when it happens.
> >
> > We have a pretty broad-minded approach to song lyrics on our station, and
> > our listeners, ranging from very young to very old, have always been
> > supremely tolerant of occasional mistakes. But of course we do our utmost
> > to avoid offending anyone with inappropriate material. We do however take
> > a fairly relaxed attitude late in some late evening shows where listeners
> > can expect to hear lyrics that we wouldn't put in the breakfast show, and
> > these have never elicited any complaints.
> >
> > On the other hand, some of the most popular Highland singalong songs with
> > our family audiences contain the words 'bugger all' and 'bloody daft',
> > which though 'mild' by most media standards, still worry some presenters
> > for peak time listening, but we only ever get requests for them, not
> > complaints.
> >
> > But the biggest problem is avoiding accidental use of 'non radio edits'.
> > This has happened from time to time - eg the non-radio version of
> > Beautiful South "Don't marry her", or James Blunt "You're beautiful", both
> > of which sound sweetness and light until a very clearly emphasized word
> > unwelcome in a teatime show.
> >
> > There can also be problems with tracks that share the same name but very
> > different lyrics. The only case we have had that actually provoked a
> > listener complaint was a Gaelic-presented show in which they played a rap
> > track with some very unfortunate sexually and racially explicit lyrics, on
> > a Sunday morning! The two ladies presenting the show fortunately were
> > paying attention to the English lyrics. They pulled the track off pretty
> > smartly, and said it was not the one they were expecting - it had the same
> > name as another perfectly okay track which they had thought they were
> > playing. The listener who complained was a non-Gaelic speaker, and when we
> > explained what the presenters had said as they pulled the track off the
> > listener was satisfied that it was a simple mistake and didn't complain
> > any further.
> >
> > And of course, to many people other lyrics that are not 'rude' can be just
> > as offensive or hurtful. For example songs referring to fat girls can be
> > very offensive to the concerned parent of someone with an easting
> > disorder, and there are also songs that have sectarian connotations that
> > presenters may not be aware of.
> >
> > A veritable minefield, but we are blessed with a very understanding
> > audience who seem to realize we are doing our best with limited resources,
> > and accept the occasional snafu (oops).
> >
> > Alex
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: Julian Mellor
> > To: Eddie Stuart
> > Cc: cma-l at mailman.commedia.org.uk
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2011 2:20 PM
> > Subject: Re: [cma-l] Sexually explicit songs and others......
> >
> >
> > Very well said Eddie.
> >
> >
> > Makes me wonder how one deals with double entendre.
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> > Message: 3
> > Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 14:44:25 +0000
> > From: Andy King <andy.king at moorlandsradio.co.uk>
> > Subject: Re: [cma-l] [comradio-l] Avoiding sexually-explicit songs
> > To: cma-l at commedia.org.uk
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> >
> > Be careful of the song lyric websites! They quite often feature incomplete
> > sets of lyrics, and I've been caught out once or twice with the odd F and
> > B
> > that whoever posted the site didn't see fit to include.
> >
> > The only safe way, and sadly the most time-consuming, is to listen with a
> > finely tuned ear to each and every song.
> >
> > We had a version of Amy Winehouse - "Back to Black", with a subtle "d**k"
> > in the first line, which no one noticed until it was played just after her
> > death! Luckily, nothing came of it.
> >
> > Also, watch out when playing live versions of tracks. One of our
> > presenters
> > does this as a feature, and got caught out by Joss Stone introducing the
> > quite harmless "You Had Me" on stage with the words "this is a song about
> > a
> > bas***d!".
> >
> > Andy
> >
> > On Tue, Nov 1, 2011 at 10:55 AM, Andrew David <adavid at lincoln.ac.uk>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> ** ** **
> >>
> >> Dear All,****
> >>
> >> ** **
> >>
> >> The mood of the Ofcom meeting was very clear - 'fess up to a problem and
> >> they'll be as helpful as possible, so long as you can show that you're
> >> trying to fix the issue and put robust but simple systems in place. It
> >> was
> >> interesting that the mainstream commercial and BBC representatives are
> >> also
> >> experiencing the same sorts of dilemmas that CR is facing. So, having
> >> paid
> >> people to check compliance of songs, doesn't always work.****
> >>
> >> ** **
> >>
> >> Siren FM's policy (with a 9-24 year old focus in the KCs) is, LEGAL,
> >> DECENT and HONEST and for safety's sake we do not have a watershed. It's
> >> always (streaming) before 9.00pm somewhere.****
> >>
> >> ** **
> >>
> >> We have a Head of Music who does his level best either to only load Radio
> >> Edit tracks or to down load the song lyrics and check them through. This
> >> is time consuming and we're looking at ways of developing a team around
> >> him
> >> to divide this out to other volunteers. They will, of course, undergo
> >> relevant training.****
> >>
> >> ** **
> >>
> >> Andrew****
> >>
> >> ** **
> >>
> >> *Andrew David*****
> >>
> >> *Managing Editor*****
> >>
> >> *Council Member for the Community Media Association (
> >> http://www.commedia.org.uk/)*****
> >>
> >> ****
> >>
> >> *SIREN FM** - simply the home of fantastic radio, just great music,
> >> enthusiastic presenters and the odd surprise or two!*****
> >>
> >> *www.sirenonline.co.uk* <http://www.sirenonline.co.uk/>****
> >>
> >> *01522 886001*****
> >>
> >> ****
> >> ------------------------------
> >>
> >> *From:* cma-l-bounces at mailman.commedia.org.uk [mailto:
> >> cma-l-bounces at mailman.commedia.org.uk] *On Behalf Of *Ian Hickling
> >> *Sent:* 31 October 2011 22:41
> >> *To:* **martin at martinsteers.co.uk**
> >> *Cc:* cma-l; comradio-l at commedia.org.uk
> >> *Subject:* [cma-l] Avoiding sexually-explicit songs****
> >>
> >> ** **
> >>
> >> ****
> >>
> >> Sorry Martin - and everyone else - but if, as you say, you haven't the
> >> the
> >> staff or volunteers to pre-check all music that's played, then you should
> >> simply not be using anything - or anyone - that you are not prepared to
> >> personally guarantee as socially acceptable.
> >>
> >> You are leaving yourself wide open to very serious social and
> >> litigious action and in my view you should not risk operating a
> >> freely-available public service under those conditions.
> >>
> >> ------------------------------------****
> >>
> >> *Ian Hickling
> >> **Partner*****
> >>
> >> *transplan UK*
> >>
> >>
> >> ****
> >> ------------------------------
> >>
> >> From: **martin at martinsteers.co.uk**
> >> Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 19:26:27 +0000
> >> To: ian at transplan.uk.com
> >> CC: cma-l at commedia.org.uk; comradio-l at commedia.org.uk
> >> Subject: Re: [cma-l] Radio stations to get new guidance on avoiding
> >> sexually explicit songs
> >>
> >> Ian / All, ****
> >>
> >> ** **
> >>
> >> I think the guidance is a good thing, I dont under stand how any
> >> community
> >> station wouldnt want more guidance or support in what they are doing in
> >> any
> >> or all areas lol.. and these are for all broadcasters not just community,
> >> even commercial stations get in trouble over language..****
> >>
> >> ** **
> >>
> >> What your suggesting is an interesting one, we have a playlist that
> >> certain shows have to follow and music on that is checked.. but even we
> >> dont have the staff or volunteers to pre check all music thats played, we
> >> train and advice volunteers and we hope for the best..****
> >>
> >> ** **
> >>
> >> Martin****
> >>
> >> ** **
> >>
> >> ** **
> >>
> >> On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 3:18 PM, Ian Hickling <transplanfm at hotmail.com>
> >> wrote:****
> >>
> >> For Heaven's sake - how much molly-coddling do we need?
> >> The answer's simple.
> >> We don't need Government or Regulator guidance.
> >> Common sense and experience will tell a responsible Licensee what's
> >> permissible in Law and acceptable to the station's audience.
> >> Nothing is played or allowed on the playout system until it's been
> >> auditioned by the PC or equivalent.
> >> You do not let all and sundry play what they like.
> >> How hard can that be?
> >> ------------------------------------****
> >>
> >> *Ian Hickling
> >> **Partner*****
> >>
> >> *transplan UK*****
> >>
> >>
> >> ****
> >>
> >> > From: cma-l at commedia.org.uk
> >> > Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 12:37:04 +0000
> >> > To: cma-l at commedia.org.uk; comradio-l at commedia.org.uk
> >> > Subject: [cma-l] The Guardian: Radio stations to get new guidance on
> >> avoiding sexually explicit songs
> >> >
> >> > Ben Dowell, guardian.co.uk, Monday 31 October 2011 12.18 GMT
> >> >
> >> > The BBC and commercial radio broadcasters will have to take more care
> >> > with sexually explicit music lyrics, particularly in songs by rap
> >> > artists, as part of a continuing crackdown by media regulator Ofcom on
> >> > content that is inappropriate for children.
> >> >
> >> > ****UK**** radio broadcasters are to be issued with new guidance by
> >> media
> >> > regulator Ofcom to address the problem of broadcasting sexually
> >> > explicit music lyrics at times when children are listening.
> >> >
> >> > Following a meeting last week between representatives from the
> >> > commercial sector as well as the BBC's editorial policy unit, Ofcom
> >> > has promised to issue new and detailed guidance by the end of the
> >> > year.
> >> >
> >> > Of particular concern to Ofcom are offensive music lyrics aired at
> >> > times in the morning and early evenings when children are often in the
> >> > cars with the radio on as they are being taken to and from school.
> >> >
> >> > This follows the issuing of stricter guidance to TV broadcasters last
> >> > month on airing such material before the 9pm watershed and signals a
> >> > growing desire by the regulator to combat the problem.
> >> >
> >> > Current rules enshrined in the Ofcom broadcasting code prohibit the
> >> > broadcast of inappropriate or offensive material when children may be
> >> > listening. But Ofcom says that the rules are flouted too often,
> >> > particularly in the playing of rap music and that it has run out of
> >> > patience.
> >> >
> >> > Among recent examples of breaches of these rules was the airing by
> >> > Scottish community radio station Brick FM of the song More Punany by
> >> > reggae artist Dr Evil at 3pm. It contained the lyrics "last night I
> >> > had a crazy threesome" and "I like to see the girls in the sexy bikini
> >> > ni ni/Want to take my chilli and push it between ni ni", as well as "I
> >> > like pun-na-na-na-ni even if it's a virgin".
> >> >
> >> > The broadcaster claimed that "punany" referred to a sandwich - a
> >> > panini, a claim that was roundly dismissed by the regulator, which
> >> > said it was slang for a woman's genitalia.
> >> >
> >> > In May Radio 1 broadcast an expletive-strewn concert by the band the
> >> > Black Eyed Peas at the station's Big Weekend event in **Carlisle**.
> >> During
> >> > the broadcast the lead singer shouted "What the fuck's going down" and
> >> > introduced their second song with the words "This song"s for all the
> >> > fucking crazy people".
> >> >
> >> > An Ofcom spokeswoman said: "Ofcom takes its role in protecting
> >> > children from offensive language on the radio very seriously. We are
> >> > concerned that there have been a number of recent cases where
> >> > offensive language was broadcast, some at times when children were
> >> > particularly likely to have been listening. That is why we held a
> >> > meeting with the radio industry this week to discuss the issues. We
> >> > intend to publish guidance by the end of the year to clarify the rules
> >> > in the broadcasting code."
> >> >
> >> > A BBC spokesman added: "The BBC, along with all radio broadcasters,
> >> > sent a representative to discuss the matter and, while we have had no
> >> > complaints upheld for bad language for more than three years, we will
> >> > work with Ofcom to ensure we continue to deal with language in a
> >> > responsible way."
> >> >
> >> > Source:
> >> http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/oct/31/radio-stations-sexually-explicit-songs
> >> >
> >> > \\
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