[cma-l] does anyone know ?

Fri Feb 25 14:49:42 GMT 2011

Bill

As always this does help ......... a precise and exemplary reply ...... it
does however all look pretty obvious to me ......... someone somewhere has
tried to nail our hats on again with this MCPS charge ...... (a 100% rise !)
I can almost see the departments sat round the dining table toasting their
bottle of plonk in the air (secret handshake)(nudge nudge wink wink)
then of course the CMA come along and say   ''hold your horses''

How we've managed to go from 600 odd quid down to 180 odd quid beats me ...
but nonetheless we have. Someone has seen some common sense at last.

It confirms my belief though once again, that this lot is nothing more and
nothing less than a money making racket ....... daylight robbery ..... Dick
Turpin on the airwaves.

The MCPS has actually got nothing to do with what I am talking about and it
is to do with the bog standard charge for PRS ....... was this negotiated or
not ??    if it was, then why do we have to go through this form filling in
process ...... none of it making any sense to the layman on the street.

Actually it does make sense and it is very clear to me ........ IF WE TAKE
£65,000 PER-ANNUM INTO OUR ACCOUNT AND SPEND £64,000 ON RUNNING OUR PROJECT,
MEANING THAT AT THE END OF THE YEAR WE ARE LEFT WITH £1,000 (NOT-FOR-PROFIT)
THEY, (THE PRS) WANT A PERCENTAGE OF THE £65,000 up and above £21,000
........... THAT'S IT BASICALLY .......... AND AS FAR AS I AM CONCERNED THEY
CAN SWING FOR IT ...... WE NEGOTIATED £700    THAT'S IT !

If you take the £700 and do a % division on what we actually are left with
every year, they end up with 70% of what we are doing ........... are they
avin' a giraffe !

Nick

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:cma-l-bounces at mailman.commedia.org.uk] On Behalf Of Bill Best
Sent: 25 February 2011 13:11
To: cma-l at commedia.org.uk
Subject: Re: [cma-l] does anyone know ?

Hi Nick

Thanks for your email.

Not quite sure what you are on about here but I'm guessing it is the
recent introduction of the mechanical rights licence (MCPS) at a flat
fee of £182.48 (plus VAT) for the period 1st October 2010 – 30th
September 2011.

The situation was that up until this current licensing period, PRS for
Music did not have a scheme in place to cover the mechanical rights
licence. All previous licences from PRS for Music included the
following wording regarding the MCPS licence:

"Your details will be held on file, and contact will be made once PRS
for Music is in a position to issue the licence. For budgeting please
allow the same minimum fee as PRS for Music, £607 plus VAT per licence
year."

The CMA received news that PRS for Music was considering plans to
introduce a charge for the MCPS licence at a cost of up to the same
amount for the Performing Rights Licence (PRS) which is £636 for 1st
October 2010 – 30th September 2011 - effectively a 100% increase in
licence fees for community radio stations.

The CMA vigorously argued against this 100% increase in the licence
fee for community radio stations and PRS for Music conceded to charge
a fee of £182.48 plus VAT for MCPS.

The CMA will continue to argue for fair treatment of non-for-profit
community radio stations with regard to the licensing fees. For
example, only this week I attended a meeting of the Community Sector
Law Monitoring Group to discuss how copyright law is applied to our
sector and the CMA is still seeking further legal opinion to ensure
that community radio stations are treated fairly in comparison to
other voluntary and community sector organisations.

Hope that helps and best regards

Bill
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On 25 February 2011 11:33, Office - ccr-fm <office at ccr-fm.co.uk> wrote:
> Dear All
>
> As it now seems to be ‘’’kicking off’’’ on yet another front 

 (PRS)
> could someone (preferably from the CMA) (Jaqui / Bill ??)    enlighten me
as
> to what was actually negotiated with the PRS 
..
> ?                            I was on the understand it was a bogged
> standard rate agreed by all parties.
>
> On the bureaucratic front would it not be sensible and easier for all
> concerned to simply be invoiced for the ‘agreed’ amount 

 return the
> invoice with a signature and a cheque.
>
> Has something been agreed or has it not been agreed ??                   
or
> 

 was it negotiated with an option left in small print for the Ivory
> Towers troop to move the goalposts, as this is how it appears to me.
>
> I’m just trying to establish what we are meant to be paying as a none
> business, not-for-profit group ?     ( we could be very soon a charity as
> well.)          The payments for the PRS are related to music used for our
> broadcasting              I think
> ?????????                                             so, I ask the
question
> again 
. Has anyone paid above the £700 ?        How much ?      and Why ?
>
> As a fraturnity and brotherhood can we also stop hiding in the trench
> waiting for others to fire the bullets and get a bad name for themselves
> 

 ie:-   moi’   !            All I am attempting to do is to fight for
a
> fair and simple system for everyone so that everyone is charged and pays
> their dues according to ability to pay. In fact I could go one further on
> this topic and ask why the CMA hasn’t negotiated a special rate for those
16
> stations who are already struggling for funding regarding the adverts on
air
> / sponsorship debacle as we appear to be getting ‘crapped on’ from all
> angles 

. We are not allowed to earn the money but have to fork
out
> the same as everyone else 

 one rule for one and different rules for
> others.
>
> Well I ain’t certainly rolling over and dieing 

     I’ll stand up and be
> counted. Once it is all put to bed maybe I will be able to join in the
> message board comminications on a positive note as opposed to negative
angst
> all the time 

.. not caused by me by the way.
>
> Nick
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