[cma-l] prs / ppl / copyright

Martin Shields martincamglen at googlemail.com
Thu Aug 4 11:44:07 BST 2011 

Hi Nick,

Sorry to be so blunt, but as with most of your posts, you only see things
from your perspective. (why wouldn't you really)

As someone who works in community radio and attempts to be an 'artist' I can
see both sides. It's sometimes nice to see both sides because you end up
passing off less of your opinions as 'facts'.

I agree that the laws(made by the government) surrounding copyright are
perhaps punishing the innocent, upstanding members of the public, however,
they do enough to scare a lot of people off potential illegal activity in
terms of ripping music, and believe me, there are a hell of a lot of people
who flout these rules anyway so any deterant is a welcome one.

I'd love to hear a suggestion from anyone that would protect the artist and
the radio station or home user, it's a tricky one don't you think?

Contrary to your outburst about artists wanting their cake and eating it, we
just want to eat. Full stop. The work that PRS for music do to support
artists cannot be understood until you are on that side of the fence. You
say money making racket, I say an organisation helping artists get what they
deserve for their hard work, determination and talent.

As an experiment you should only play royalty free music for a week, backing
it up wherever you please, and see what your listeners and volunteers
feedback is like.

Martin.

On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 6:07 PM, Office - ccr-fm <office at ccr-fm.co.uk> wrote:

>  Dear All****
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> I ain’t getting embroiled in the rights and wrongs and too-ings and
> fro-ings of copyright ………. I don’t understand it ?         L****
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> What I do know though is this ………  it’s a money making racket and a sham.
> The Law should be against people who use the music for financial profitable
> gain, whilst at the same time not paying for it.****
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> If Fred Bloggs the songwriter, writes a song and Engelbert Humperdinck
> wishes to release it as a potential hit ……… then Mr Hump’ pays that guy his
> dues ….. he then releases it through the usual channels (record companies,
> publishers etc)           and hopefully sells the song.****
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> If I like it ………… I buy it, if I don’t like it, I don’t buy it ………………………
> once I give him the money and buy it, it then belongs to me. I can do what
> the hell I want with it …. Play it, dance on it, sit on it, use it as a
> plate, a bird scarer, a frisbee ……………… as long as I have purchased it and
> not RIPPED IT OFF / STOLEN IT, then I see no legalities to be had !****
>
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> If he and Elton John, Sting, Paul Weller, Robbie Williams song writer don’t
> want me to use it ……….. don’t sell it me, don’t bother writing the song in
> the first place, in fact, simply go and work in M&S and do something
> different.****
>
> But alas ……. They don’t do this, they want their cake and eat it.****
>
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> Furthermore ……  this business of a retrieval system or re-recording on a
> database … most of it is done to save what the customer / purchaser has,
> so’s not to lose it, and not for sinister reasons. THEY actually want you to
> only have one copy, spill tea on it and then go and buy it again.****
>
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> I apologise for writing in such a dire way, but these ladies and gentlemen
> are the facts …………. It’s a money making racket !                     then
> you get the leaches and parasites jumping on the bandwaggon who are also
> after a butty or two.****
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> The whole thing is a bleedin’ joke but well thought out by    whoever
> ?       back in the 1930’s****
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> The music is put up for market, someone buys it ……….. no crime there ………
> they play it ……….. no crime there either …………. However, this is the crux of
> the matter****
>
> If it is played to an audience for financial gain, then perhaps there is a
> case for a little tickle. If it is stored or played out to individuals /
> people for NO financial gain, then there is no crime either.****
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> The crime is in the theft.****
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> Community Radio buys the music / or gets promos. We play it not for
> financial gain (NO PROFITS) (read the rules)    we store it, because we have
> to or else we can’t do what we do ……..    WE PROMOTE IT****
>
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> They should be bloody paying us !    not us paying them              or at
> least call it quits****
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> It’s pathetic****
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> A money making racket                   be told !****
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> Regards****
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> Nick****
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