[cma-l] National Advertising

ROBERT TYLER bobtyler at btinternet.com
Fri Apr 29 21:03:46 BST 2011



Phil

 

RAJAR is
not the ideal tool unless community radio becomes a brand, ie CR Frome or CR
Manchester 103.5fm.  Then RAJAR could
pick up the ‘brand’ id as a sort of generic.

 

Guessing
now but perhaps 4% of listening hours could bring in £1 – £2m with very small cost
of RAJAR and net agency commission.

 

My thoughts
are that a ‘caring package’ or ‘ECO package’ is a better direction, selling to
advertisers that want to offset other spend for whatever reason.

 

This has
legs.

 

Bob



--- On Tue, 26/4/11, Phil Edmonds <lists at philedmonds.info> wrote:

From: Phil Edmonds <lists at philedmonds.info>
Subject: Re: [cma-l] National Advertising
To: cma-l at mailman.commedia.org.uk
Date: Tuesday, 26 April, 2011, 19:39

Again my personal views....

On 23/04/2011 20:56, ROBERT TYLER wrote:
> In any event, all of national advertising is sold based on RAJAR data,
> in other words, no RAJAR no interest.

Just pondering - in the last RAJAR figures, 'other listening' counts for 
6% reach.

This 'other listening' consists of:

Non RAJAR subscribing stations - i.e. many Digital only, Community, 
Student, Hospital and Pirate stations.
'Out of area' listening (i.e. if I ticked Liverpool's 'Radio City' as a 
Manchester listener I'd be in 'other listening' as I'm outside their TSA).


Also RAJAR state that 25% of listening is via Digital Platforms.

Therefore you could argue that discounting 25% of the 6% of 'other 
listening' - leaves us with Community Radio having 'the best part of' a 
4% audience reach.

Of course some Community Radio listening is via Internet - which is 
Digital in the RAJAR survey and there are many other non Community 
'other' stations.


The biggest, of many, blows to the statistical validity of this 4% 
figure is that there is not universal enough coverage of Community 
Radio. We are all so different that if a respondent in Town A listens to 
a Community Radio station, we can't justifiably assume that a similar 
demographic non surveyed listener in Town B listens to their local 
Community Radio station.

Even if you take a margin out of the 'other listening' for listeners to 
non Rajar, non Community Radio, a 2% reach brings us in line with the 
reach of BBC 6Music - but still this is pretty dodgy ground to claim 
with any validity. In any case in the commercial world there's only 
Premier Christian Radio, Kissmat, Buzz Asia, Gold Devon and Yorkshire 
Radio at such low reach figures (the first three being niche 
broadcasters, the last digital only and we can only assume Oldies on AM 
is not a mass market attraction in Devon.)

So depending on how you spin it 2% may or may not be that 'attractive' a 
statistic.

However I believe the reach of Community Radio will be greater than this 
- but a significant audience will only tune in for one or two specific 
programmes.

The Rajar methodology will never work for this as the survey size is 
just many a factor (I'd argue at least hundreds times) too small to 
catch all these niche one or two hours a week listeners. BUT it is 
perfectly "statistically valid" to "gauge" the audience of large 
mainstream radio stations.


Anyway this is some food for thought - I'm sure some Rajar gurus might 
be able to pull apart some of this argument as I don't claim to be any 
expert!

Phil.
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