[cma-l] Community Radio Royalties
andrew.wass at talk21.com
andrew.wass at talk21.com
Thu Oct 28 12:21:21 BST 2010
Hi Ian et al,
Just want to assure Ian and anyone else that Desi Radio in Southall and Im sure
a number of other stations DO pay royalties to both PRS and PPL, we pay dearly
in fact!
I have a number of gripes about this, the biggest is that I doubt that any of
the writers/artists that feature on Desi's output see a penny of it! The range
of music that we play is huge, and certainly the folk and devotional music that
we play is traditional and unattributed. We also believe that much of the music
originates from outside of the territories that PRS/PPL represent. We've never
played a Lady Gaga track of course..... but hope she raises a glass to us on
occasion.... literally at our expense.
Sorry not to contribute more often, as we all know theres plenty to do!
Good fortune to all.
Fraternally yours...
Andy Wass
Administrator/Manager
The Panjabi Centre/Desi Radio
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From: Ian Hickling <transplanfm at hotmail.com>
To: Peter Vautier <admin at londonhuayu.co.uk>; Trevor Lockwood
<trevor at felixstoweradio.co.uk>
Cc: cma-l <cma-l at commedia.org.uk>
Sent: Wednesday, 27 October, 2010 8:42:04
Subject: [cma-l] Community Radio Royalties
I'm in a cleft stick here.
I believe that people who make music should be properly rewarded for their art -
but at the same time the present system appears to be illogical, secretive and
unfair.
Has any broadcaster ever told the societies that they're not paying their
exhorbitant arbitrary and unexplained fees and to go ahead and sue?
Bill will know that only last week he managed to ensure that a new broadcaster
was only charged pro-rata for two months' royalties when the organisation
concerned had insisted - would you beleive - on a full 12-month fee for two
months' activity.
Peter raises the point about using music from other countries and how Royalties
are and should be paid.
As I understand it - and I may be quite wrong - there are parallel agreements
throughout the world with other royalty collection agencies.
We provide facilities for stations serving Asian communities and they never ever
pay PRS, MCPS and PPL as far as I can see.
If English-language stations in the UK are required to pay, then why are these
equally-licensed broadcasters apparently exempted because their music orignated
in another country?
Why doesn't Ofcom collect these royalties - if indeed they are fully
authenticated in Law - at the same time as the Licence Fees?
Ian Hickling
Partner
transplan UK
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From: admin at londonhuayu.co.uk
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2010 17:16:28 +0100
To: trevor at felixstoweradio.co.uk
CC: cma-l at commedia.org.uk
Subject: Re: [cma-l] PRS Community Radio Licence Application and FAQ - your
feedback required
I'd second that - a very large proportion of our music is from Mainland China,
which isn't under the PRS/PPL license.
It would also be good if these artists actually got paid royalties for their
work, since it is so hard to make money from music in China, and since the
record companies over there have been so supportive by giving us interviews,
etc.
Peter Vautier
London Chinese Radio
On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 11:56 AM, <trevor at felixstoweradio.co.uk> wrote:
Bill
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>I was not aware of any stated policy about the CMA and PRS relationship.
>
>
>In the past I've wondered whether CMA is now large enough to consider creating
>its own version of PRS, working with that organisation, but achieving economies
>of scale by having one application/funding stream.
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>My real concern with the present system is that at Felixstowe Radio we have a
>large speech content, and we also play many tracks from artists that are not yet
>registered with PRS. Our output is not specifically recorded by PPL - so we pay
>them more than we should, and our artists don't get to sniff the barmaid's
>apron.
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>Is it true that the PRS boss earns £600K?
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>
>Trevor
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>----- Original Message -----
>From: Bill Best
>Sent: 26/10/10 10:38 AM
>To: cma-l at commedia.org.uk
>Subject: [cma-l] PRS Community Radio Licence Application and FAQ - your feedback
>required
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>Hi Jaqui's not available today to address the issues that some of you have
>recently brought up on the list as she's attending a meeting at DCMS to
>represent the sector to the Digital Radio Marketing Group. Yesterday Jaqui was
>at the "Community Radio and Digitally Networked Business" workshop in Port
>Talbot and met a number of CMA members there. On 15 October Jaqui and I
>attended a meeting at PRS for Music to discuss issues around music licensing for
>the sector - in particular about MCPS rates which have hitherto not yet been
>charged. PRS will feedback to the CMA about MCPS rates when the relevant PRS
>board documentation is completed later this week. I'm delighted to say that
>talks with PRS were productive and the CMA has re-established a positive working
>dialogue with PRS. In the meantime PRS are currently reviewing their Community
>Radio documentation in advance of refreshing it with the new licence information
>and updated PRS rates. Are there any frequently asked questions or items that
>station managers are particularly interested in that require attention or
>further explanation? The PRS Community Radio Licence Application and FAQ is
>here: http://bit.ly/dwnsAF Please get back to me with any feedback. Regards
>Bill -- Community Media Association http://www.commedia.org.uk/
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